What's With This DERB?

[BarronVangorToth]

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im really not convinced that it is more than just extended luck

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I've only taken the VERY occasional crack at those limits online but my thought is at some point you have to give him credit for developing a quality outside-the-box metagame strategy that works well for him.

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

[1800GAMBLER]

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I've only taken the VERY occasional crack at those limits online but my thought is

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A better line would have been 'I have never played against DERB, so i wont give my thoughts'.

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I've only taken the VERY occasional crack at those limits online but my thought is

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A better line would have been 'I have never played against DERB, so i wont give my thoughts'.

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In the same line of thinking, I hope you don't have any thoughts on abortion, space travel, war and crime.

[1800GAMBLER]

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I've only taken the VERY occasional crack at those limits online but my thought is

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A better line would have been 'I have never played against DERB, so i wont give my thoughts'.

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In the same line of thinking, I hope you don't have any thoughts on abortion, space travel, war and crime.

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worst analogy ever.

[newhizzle]

ive never played against him either and really dont know what im talking about here, but i just dont see how throwing away 3+ BB on hopeless hands with 0 FE fairly often could possibly be made up for with meta-effects that you already have a reputation for and could easily make that reputation last while not recklessly spewing chips for no reason quite as often as he appears to

also do we know if hes still a winner?

[flawless_victory]

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im really not convinced that it is more than just extended luck

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I've only taken the VERY occasional crack at those limits online but my thought is at some point you have to give him credit for developing a quality outside-the-box metagame strategy that works well for him.

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

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this is such a 2+2-math-guy-no-game thing to say... if he came back w/ new acct/location/etc, hed still win.

[newhizzle]

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this is such a 2+2-math-guy-no-game thing to say... if he came back w/ new acct/location/etc, hed still win.

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if you look at my original post, i tried to give all the points of view, and then stated my oppinion, then i said that i probably dont know what i am talking about since ive never played with him

i dont think it is impossible for someone with his stats to be a long-term winner, but looking at the hands that have been posted and hearing what 2+2ers who have played with him have said about his play, i am not convinced, it just seems like he sucks postflop

perhaps we can learn something from his play, i dont know, if he is a winner or the best player ever or whatever his thinking is probably far above my level, because it dosent seem to me that the wasted bets can be easily made up by having a crazy image

i would be very interested in what david or mason have to say after they look over some of his play and his long-term numbers

[David Sklansky]

Is there a good reason to believe that his results are legitmate? Even if he is not colluding, could he perhaps be having chips dumped to him for sime reason?

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This is actually something I have silently wondered for a while.

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This is actually something I have silently wondered for a while.

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After watching him a bunch this week I haven't seen anything that would make me think he is involved with colluding, chipduming, etc. Also, as there is a pretty small core group that plays a bunch in the 50, someone assuredly would have observed/reported any collusion if it had happened.

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