(109) more AQ bubble fun with raptor

Thanks for this post, SumZero. It clearly helps me understand. I voted 'fold' thinking "let the BigStack take him out". With your post, I see why getting involved is safer than the possibility of ending up in last with bubble unpopped. Thanks a bunch.

[Irieguy]

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why would you play this hand when your not desperate, but pass the other when you are? I'm missing something.

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Because here shorty is so desperate, and the big stack so loose that I love this chance to change the scenery.

In the other hand I would need to be awfully desperate, and awfully live to call a push from somebody that doesn't need chips.

Irieguy

[Scuba Chuck]

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why would you play this hand when your not desperate, but pass the other when you are? I'm missing something.

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Because here shorty is so desperate, and the big stack so loose that I love this chance to change the scenery.

In the other hand I would need to be awfully desperate, and awfully live to call a push from somebody that doesn't need chips.

Irieguy

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I wish I was as succinct as you. I would have said the same thing with about 12 more sentences.

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why would you play this hand when your not desperate, but pass the other when you are? I'm missing something.

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Because here shorty is so desperate, and the big stack so loose that I love this chance to change the scenery.

In the other hand I would need to be awfully desperate, and awfully live to call a push from somebody that doesn't need chips.

Irieguy

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I'm so glad I'm not going insane here (or at least I have company).

1) we're probably a favorite in this pot against their ranges
2) busting shorty is good, and we very much increase the chances of shorty getting busted

[Bigwig]

I call.

EDIT-- 60/40 in favor of folding, eh? I thought this was the G00T forum? Hee haw.

[Daliman]

I'd call this. Too many factors working in your favor, and i'd gather that loose raising ranges for both,(which they should be) in tools would back it up.

If I could figure out how to get the farging thing to have 2 people allin...... [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

FWIW, I show just the call vs the SB any 2 is -1.7%, but that ain't close to right for this.

[The Don]

I call everytime here. Too lazy for a cost benefit analysis, from experience it seems like calling is the best move.

[lacky]

ok, I love calling anyway, so you've conviced me, I call in both hands

[Scuba Chuck]

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I'd call this. Too many factors working in your favor, and i'd gather that loose raising ranges for both,(which they should be) in tools would back it up.

If I could figure out how to get the farging thing to have 2 people allin...... [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

FWIW, I show just the call vs the SB any 2 is -1.7%, but that ain't close to right for this.

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I tried rearranging the order so that shorty was the BB, and changed the blinds to 250/500 so that he was allin, to account for the 3 way, but I think if I keep trying to do this, SNGPT might blow up.

The best part is that I get a pop up saying that this is a patch he might fix sometime in the future. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[valenzuela]

I voted call.
There are 6 possible outcomes.( H-hero, B-big stack, S-short stack)
HBS
HSB
BSH
BHS
SBH
SHB

If hero wins , SS is eliminated and hero kick ass. That happens( not taking into account that our hand is AQ ) a third of the time.
If the big stack wins, we are pwned however nobody can dislike 91 dollars.
If short stack wins, we kick ass half of the time and get totally screwed the other half of the time.

Anyway even if u didnt get what I did above I will sum it up:
You only bust fourth once every 6 times( similar to aces against some random crap...)
What kind of gigantic puss folds here??? Not me, Im taking my chances with AQ. I havent read any other post so maybe I repeated what everyone said or maybe my idea has already been refuted.