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#51
10-05-2005, 04:34 PM
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Re: interesting WPT tournament hand
Is it possible that Cassidy missed the preflop bobble? In that case, I can understand his play, although I still think the flop call is very questionable.
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#54
10-05-2005, 04:40 PM
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Re: interesting WPT tournament hand
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[ QUOTE ] I think pro played horribly. [/ QUOTE ] Anyone else hate pro's PF call more than any other part of this hand? [/ QUOTE ] I suppose KJ suited has some decent implied odds-- although really not good. I hate his preflop call regardless. What does he hope to accomplish? If he was on the button and it was folds to him, I can understand wanting to take a flop heads up with an internet donk (I know he's not a donk). I hate his flop call, and I can think of almost no justification for it. His turn bet was if anything the only decent part of the hand, esp if he puts hero on AK, and thinks he will fold a reasonable % of the time. All in all, I think this hand was played donktastically by Cassidy.
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#55
10-05-2005, 04:40 PM
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Re: interesting WPT tournament hand
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[ QUOTE ] I think pro played horribly. [/ QUOTE ] Anyone else hate pro's PF call more than any other part of this hand? [/ QUOTE ] I don't if he plans to not play like he decided to. He called 300 for a chance to play against a player who's likely not in a good mental state and has a good hand. I takes a full pot of ~7.5k frequently enough to make this play profitable or at least not nearly as -EV as the flop call.
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#56
10-05-2005, 04:47 PM
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Re: interesting WPT tournament hand
It's very hard to criticize someone's judgement call about his FE.
It's obvious enough that Cassidy knew where he was at in the hand when he called the flop and bet the turn. He misjudged DE's willingness to call, probably based on prior observed behaviour. The flop call doesn't work for me because I want more outs (I don't trust my read that much), but that's a limitation in my game.
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#57
10-05-2005, 04:59 PM
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Re: interesting WPT tournament hand
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It's very hard to criticize someone's judgement call about his FE. It's obvious enough that Cassidy knew where he was at in the hand when he called the flop and bet the turn. He misjudged DE's willingness to call, probably based on prior observed behaviour. The flop call doesn't work for me because I want more outs (I don't trust my read that much), but that's a limitation in my game. [/ QUOTE ] I think the odds that someone who played this hand this way (especially how they played it preflop) folds are really really low. The player must be upset with himself here, and his check on the turn makes his hand even harder to fold. I still want your thoughts on Cassidy just not noticing the preflop crap, SossMan.
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#58
10-05-2005, 05:07 PM
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Re: interesting WPT tournament hand
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Anyone else hate pro's PF call more than any other part of this hand? [/ QUOTE ] T300 with position on Hero, I'd gamble.
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#59
10-05-2005, 05:10 PM
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Re: interesting WPT tournament hand
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[ QUOTE ] I think pro played horribly. [/ QUOTE ] Anyone else hate pro's PF call more than any other part of this hand? [/ QUOTE ] No... If hero has AK and Joe catches two pair against him, he has a chance to break the hero. Also, if hero has QQ, Joe can bust him on a K high flop b/c hero could be flustered from this mistake and get him to put in his whole stack. Inexperienced players tend to get very frustrated by mistakes made out of inexperience, and therefore make more mistakes throughout the rest of the hand. If I were in Joe's spot, I would call with any two relatively playable cards looking to flop big and break hero. Also, I think Joe is still working on his NL game and doesn't quite understand it all that well yet(This doesn't mean he is bad, just that his limit game is light years ahead of his NL game as that is his specialty and he's one of the best in the world at it.)
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#60
10-05-2005, 05:14 PM
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Re: interesting WPT tournament hand
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think pro played horribly. [/ QUOTE ] Anyone else hate pro's PF call more than any other part of this hand? [/ QUOTE ] No... If hero has AK and Joe catches two pair against him, he has a chance to break the hero. Also, if hero has QQ, Joe can bust him on a K high flop b/c hero could be flustered from this mistake and get him to put in his whole stack. [/ QUOTE ] So, when the flop comes Kxx, Joe should stack his opponent if he has QQ, but fold if his opponent's got AK?
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