My check-threebet runs smack into another player's check-cap...

[Nick C]

I think there's some chance that MP2 planned to checkraise the Button with something like QQ and then went ahead and followed through despite encountering a lot more action than he expected. I think it's more likely that he has a set or AA. There are a lot of other hands we can't completely rule out, and by the river it is unfortunate that 99 and JJ are among them.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I would have called down after the flop check/cap, expecting to lose but hoping to see QQ or something worse (such as AT/AJ).

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I think there's some chance that MP2 planned to checkraise the Button with something like QQ and then went ahead and followed through despite encountering a lot more action than he expected. I think it's more likely that he has a set or AA. There are a lot of other hands we can't completely rule out, and by the river it is unfortunate that 99 and JJ are among them.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I would have called down after the flop check/cap, expecting to lose but hoping to see QQ or something worse (such as AT/AJ).

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With this board after hero 3 bets (I'm assuming villain knows hero is a TAG), do you think he would value bet AA? I'm not sure I would after that river card...maybe that's weak, but I would really wonder what he was pumping there after his PF call.

[Nick C]

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With this board after hero 3 bets (I'm assuming villain knows hero is a TAG), do you think he would value bet AA? I'm not sure I would after that river card...maybe that's weak, but I would really wonder what he was pumping there after his PF call.

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If I were MP2 and had AA, Chesspain's check/3-bet would have scared me quite a bit. I'm not sure how I would have responded to it, but I probably would have capped in an effort to protect my hand (the pot is still 4-way at that point), which, given the board and the pot size, I would also worry would be futile (and I'd be even more worried that I was already behind).

Anyway, though, I also would have capped my AA preflop, and Chesspain doesn't have a read on MP2, so I think there's a good chance MP2 doesn't have much of a read on Chesspain either.

[Nick C]

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With this board after hero 3 bets (I'm assuming villain knows hero is a TAG), do you think he would value bet AA? I'm not sure I would after that river card...maybe that's weak, but I would really wonder what he was pumping there after his PF call.

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If I were MP2 and had AA, Chesspain's check/3-bet would have scared me quite a bit. I'm not sure how I would have responded to it, but I probably would have capped in an effort to protect my hand (the pot is still 4-way at that point), which, given the board and the pot size, I would also worry would be futile (and I'd be even more worried that I was already behind).

Anyway, though, I also would have capped my AA preflop, and Chesspain doesn't have a read on MP2, so I think there's a good chance MP2 doesn't have much of a read on Chesspain either.

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It's too late to edit, but I just realized you were probably talking about the river more than the flop.

Anyway, yes, I would have trouble finding a bet on the river with AA, on that board, after the previous action.

[chief444]

Chesspain,

I can't really argue with posflop since that check/cap is pretty scary. Not too many opponents do that with a hand you beat even with something like 9T, IMO.

As far as preflop, I just wanted to point out that if Button is paying attention he's going to be very concerned with you semi-cold calling 3 preflop. There aren't many hands you'll do that with really. I guess what I'm getting at is it seems like he'll be checking a flop like this through more often that usual with you in. I would be anyway. No way I'm betting AK or AQ on a 78T flop knowing there's a VERY good chance you'll be raising. Just a thought.

Chief

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This really looks like TT to me.

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[PokerBob]

Not capping pf is getting too cute IMHO.

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I think MP2's hand capping range from most likely to least likely is: TT, AA, KK, QQ/99, and JJ.

The flop action is extremely weird and also extremely unsettling. I'd also call down.

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exactly my thinking on this

[MrEngenic]

He 3-bet coldcalls preflop and check/caps after a preflop 3-bet coldcaller check/3-bets the flop. How could it be weak to just call that down? He's got a very good hand, like a set or AA, maybe even an unlikely straight.