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Old 12-05-2005, 11:36 PM
Ryan11 Ryan11 is offline
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Default TPTK river play?

Villian: 65/10/2.93

Is this an easy fold on the river?

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Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, HERO???
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: TPTK river play?

Call. Furthermore, raise the flop.
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: TPTK river play?

How close do you think it is to a fold? What could villian be raising with that I beat?
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: TPTK river play?

Your opponent's basically a maniac and you've under-represented your hand in a fairly large pot. It's not even close.
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: TPTK river play?

You way under represented your hand throughout so I think you have to call against this opponent. Why would you not fast play this hand against this LAG especially with a drawy board. Not raising the turn after you just call the flop is really bad IMO. I do not like the way you played this hand.
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: TPTK river play?

ya i was planning on raising the turn when i checked the flop but decided to let him fire again on the river.
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: TPTK river play?

Looks like you're beat to me, not an easy fold, but a fold none the less IMO.
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Old 12-06-2005, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: TPTK river play?

- i would never fold here.
- i would raise the turn 75% and the flop 25%
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:45 AM
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Default Re: TPTK river play?

The guys a maniac, and I like raising the flop against this type of player -- he may go several bets on flop/turn with middle pair or a draw etc.

Given that you didn't raise the flop, you have to raise the turn (any spade is calling; charge them). Against a more sane opponent I would take the call-flop, raise-turn line. This way you don't fold out worse hands too quickly, but you have to charge a single-spade draw.

Given the opponent you can't fold the river.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: TPTK river play?

I agree, folding this river sucks bad
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