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11-30-2005, 02:21 AM
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Extremely loose table with Big PP
Alright, there are 5 limpers to you on the button. You have QQ or JJ. What do you do?
I heard that possibly just calling and waiting to raise when someone bets into you is a decent play, but I find it hard to believe that this could be better than raising pre-flop. The idea was that everyone will call with the two pair draws in a bloated pot, but you can get the bottom pairs to fold in a smaller pot. Does this have any merit? What does everyone think? 
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11-30-2005, 02:22 AM
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Re: Extremely loose table with Big PP
Raise, they are calling you down with any pair/any draw no matter what if they are that loose and stupid.
If you lose, who cares how big the pot is. But when you win you want it to be big, so raise.
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11-30-2005, 02:26 AM
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11-30-2005, 04:38 AM
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Re: Extremely loose table with Big PP
Raise. You have the best hand now, make them pay to beat you with junk. I can't see how calling and then raising on the flop is better. You are giving a ton of junk hands a chance to beat you cheaply.
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#5
11-30-2005, 07:33 AM
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Re: Extremely loose table with Big PP
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The idea was that everyone will call with the two pair draws in a bloated pot, but you can get the bottom pairs to fold in a smaller pot. [/ QUOTE ] You want the bottom pairs to call you down. That is how you make lots of money. You raise it preflop, they call with crap, they hit bottom pair but they think, "Well, the pot is big and I might improve," so they call you down. Sometimes they do improve. Sometimes you improve too. But they majority of the time they don't and you pull a 20BB pot. Whenever I raise preflop with a big pocket and most of the table comes with me I am a happy boy.
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