I hate KTo - and this one is really ugly

MadMat · #1 12-21-2005, 02:04 AM

I seem to keep getting myself in trouble with the weaker offsuit broadways - heres a good example!

MP1 44/14/2.5 but only had about 30 hands on him at this point,

I put him on flush draw after the flop as I thought the 14 PFR meant he'd have raised any 2 big cards. Then I got confused as he didn't bet when I thought he'd hit!

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.50.
3 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) checks, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds, MP1 3-bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB folds.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (8.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

DCWildcat · #2 12-21-2005, 02:08 AM

Bet the river at least. You'll get paid off by K's with lower kickers, will rarely be c/r'd, and might even squeak out some ugly calls with 99ish or A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] type hands.

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) · #3 12-21-2005, 02:08 AM

This is a pretty bad preflop call.

I'd fold if MP1 had bet the turn.

Since you're here, bet the river.

SoftcoreRevolt · #4 12-21-2005, 02:12 AM

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This is a pretty bad preflop call.

I'd fold if MP1 had bet the turn.

Since you're here, bet the river.

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No it isn't, he's up against three people, and one is a slightly OOP Poster so he could have ANYTHING, and is probably a weaker player due to posting OOP.

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) · #5 12-21-2005, 02:15 AM

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I'm gonna stick by this one; the preflop call is not one I would make. With 5 limpers maybe, or with KJ+ I'm raising, but KTo hits the muck here every time for me.

#6 12-21-2005, 02:21 AM

preflop call is sooo not questionable

#7 12-21-2005, 02:21 AM

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I'm gonna stick by this one; the preflop call is not one I would make. With 5 limpers maybe, or with KJ+ I'm raising, but KTo hits the muck here every time for me.

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these are two broadway cards. they have some value multiway in an unraised pot

Entity · #8 12-21-2005, 03:46 AM

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No it isn't,

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I'm gonna stick by this one; the preflop call is not one I would make. With 5 limpers maybe, or with KJ+ I'm raising, but KTo hits the muck here every time for me.

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KT is an easy limp. I'm limping KJ as well.

Rob

#9 12-21-2005, 08:51 AM

i agree with entity 100%

and i wasnt referring to your play madmat, your preflop was fine... was talking to gravy.

imported_The Vibesman · #10 12-21-2005, 10:16 AM

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No it isn't,

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I'm gonna stick by this one; the preflop call is not one I would make. With 5 limpers maybe, or with KJ+ I'm raising, but KTo hits the muck here every time for me.

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KT is an easy limp. I'm limping KJ as well.

Rob

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Agreed. You find yourself in some situations after the flop but you have position on everyone else, play poker.