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Too much work, let it die 20 27.40%
Make a possible lifetime commitment and help it 53 72.60%
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Old 12-22-2005, 03:50 PM
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I don't tip someone for doing the job they are paid to do, paying them is thier employers responsability not mine!

I do however tip people who go the extra mile for me, recent examples being a cab driver that helped my wife carry several heavy shopping bags into the house, and a waitress who took the time to find some crayons and paper to keep my kids quiet/amused while waiting for our meal

Mat
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Old 12-22-2005, 05:53 PM
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That still doesn't alter the fact that tipping is 100% voluntary.

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Society forces you to tip, its not voluntary.
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:36 PM
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True. I am considered an extremely generous person (but not the best player in a home game!), but I really don't 100% agree with tipping dealers after rake. But I do, because I care, to some degree, what people think. And I like to set an example. Not that it changes the cards I get, but i
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:43 PM
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As long as tipping is optional I despise the sanctimonious attitude the big and/or consistent tippers have towards the small/inconsistent tippers.

Maybe someone doesn't tip because they really need the money? Do you people drive to Wal Mart and call the people who shop their cheap-skates and tight-wads, etc.

Just because you have the money to tip or it isn't that valuable to you don't rag on those who the money IS a big deal.

And even IF someone decides not to tip at all, IT IS COMPLETELY OPTIONAL. AS LONG AS IT IS OPTIONAL WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TELL ANOTHER PERSON THE "PROPER" WAY TO ACT.

Oh and you tip the waiter at the end of the meal, you don't tip him every single time he stops by your table.
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Old 12-22-2005, 08:10 PM
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If you don't want the service, deal the cards yourself. You are going to a casino not just for the fish, but for the dealer so don't be a total douche and tip when you win a big pot. Otherwise, there's plenty of fish online.
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Old 12-22-2005, 08:33 PM
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This would be a fantastic question for the
B&M forum. It really hasn't been addressed
there yet. Good post!

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Old 12-22-2005, 09:24 PM
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I don't tip someone for doing the job they are paid to do, paying them is thier employers responsability not mine!

I do however tip people who go the extra mile for me, recent examples being a cab driver that helped my wife carry several heavy shopping bags into the house, and a waitress who took the time to find some crayons and paper to keep my kids quiet/amused while waiting for our meal

Mat

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Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old 12-23-2005, 10:12 PM
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You know what I hate, the goodie types who when you don't tip a pot that you probably should, or is a borderline decision ("discretion" has been mentioned at least once in this thread), they tip the dealer for you, in a pot they didn't win, just to try and make you feel bad.
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Old 12-24-2005, 12:15 AM
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Oh and you tip the waiter at the end of the meal, you don't tip him every single time he stops by your table.

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Hmmm. Never thought of it that way before.
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Old 12-24-2005, 01:27 PM
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Hmm let's see, they do a job that most third world slave wage employees wish they could get, and with the emergence of globalism, I think it's only fair to include them in a comparison of occupations/wages. A job that's considerably easier than the vast majority of construction jobs, whether skilled or unskilled. A job with considerably less weighty physical safety ramifications than say a mistake made by a crane operator. Their job involves virtually no physical exertion. What about a keen creative mind and great artistic ability such as is necessary for success as an artist, advertising planner, clothing or interior designer? Negatory, batman. What about being a greatly humanitarian occupation such as nurses, nursing assitants and doctor's assistants? If you count helping to get the attention of the barmaid quicker, sure! Mathematical genius? Yeah, it's a real brain fryer to follow how many bets of which size come out on each round and then take 5 or 10% for the rake up to a certain maximum. Analytical prowess? Uhh yeah, it's super tough to tell what the players' hands are when they show you their pocket cards.

What do they do, if they're considered good? They're able to do a lot of small talk/bullshitting (mostly with the boisterous drunks) and they shuffle/deal the cards quickly -- an ability most any non-totalfucktard can develop with a few days to a few weeks of moderately intense practice. Sorry, but I think them making what they can make from wages plus tips based upon even just $.50 per pot for an average number of dealt hands per hour is absurd, no matter what angle you look at it from. As has been mentioned by others, players tipping a buck or so at the end of a short session or a few at the end of a long session would probably make the most sense. Why do I tip $1 for normal pots, $.50 for unusually small pots, and occasionally $2 (depending on how much longer I intend for my session to last) for unusually large pots then? Only because that is the commonly accepted practice on the part of the recreational players I play against with the intention of winning money from, and I wish to avoid exuding an unusually serious, money-hungry image to them (although that itself is a chore with even a modicum of tight pre-flop play versus the "never say fold!" till the flop horseshit).
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