kk in a big pot

[stu-unger]

reads on villain go something like this. he is a complete maniac/donk. willing to call large raises pf with almost any 2, willing to bluff in most any situation and makes some questionable calls. i have played 2 big hands with him already, one he raised and i reraised with KK in position. the flop was 7 high. he led and i pushed over the top. he called with A7. the other i open raised with 99. he led on the flop with an open ended st8 flush draw and i pushed over the top with the nut set. he called and my hand held up.

50nl 6-max
effective stack 110
dealt to hero on button K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]k [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

pre flop: UTG raises to 1, villain calls in MP, hero makes it 5 to go, both call.

flop (15): J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG checks, villain bets 15, hero calls, UTG folds.

turn (45): 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
villain bets 43, hero calls

river (131):2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
villain checks, hero checks?

i know my turn call is a little questionable but, i didn't think i was beat yet and i didnt want to push and find out i was. should i push this river or just check and take a free showdown.

I would check because i dont think he is calling much without the ace anyway.. You dont want to get "The sexy" (check-raising the river) done to you.

[stu-unger]

im not worried about a c/r here. if i bet i bet my whole stack which is only like half of the pot. i am just wondering if i am losing value from a 3 and the Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and any other wierd hand a super donk will call off all of his chips with. i checked behind because i didnt see much value in betting but, after i thought about it this guys calling range is much wider than hands that beat me.

[Malachii]

By my gorilla math you both have about 65 left. Getting checkraised here would be unpleasant, but I'd bet $20 and probably call a push, although I would hate it. I think he calls with any lesser club. I also think he bets the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] here since he's taken the lead the whole way.

[trumpman84]

Villain if he's really as big a maniac as you say has nothing more than a J IMO. The way you describe him overplaying top pair so badly, I think you get the most value out of this hand by raising the turn all-in. Also, most bad maniacs I've seen just love to slow play when they finally do catch a hand, so I think it's unlikely he has 3 here or a full house...it's possible he has a lower flush though.

[Lucky]

No way he checks the A here. Bet 30 or the 50 allin, whatever you think will be more enticing. The 20 to 30 he calls without club,just because. The allin he calls with bad club.

[kitaristi0]

Does anyone raise on the flop here? If he has a jack he's going to pay you off, and it's somewhat unlikely he has a three (though it's possible).