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11-29-2005, 02:01 PM
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Ever wonder why 2+2 is going downhill?
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- it's either a cap, or a fold, and I don't see much difference between the two. Dogmeat [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EVAN I think there is a big difference. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh Mr. Moderator, since I see little difference in the two, rather than stating your opinion - how about adding some insight as to which is the clear choice and why - please enlighten me. Dogmeat [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EVAN 1) Relax 2) I think saying that folding and cold capping are about the same needs a lot more explanation than saying that they aren't. end quote The upper quote is my answer in another thread. The reply is from our moderator Evan. Am I out of line to expect an actual explanation instead of a sarcastic, condescending reply - twice? I expect the sarcasm from many posters at 2+2 (and I'm obviously guilty of it myself), but is it too much to ask that the moderators not join in threads with worthless, one line crap; and when asked for an explanation, that they don't again reply with crap? 2+2 is the best poker forum on the web, but the response to new posts is 80% drivel, and it doesn't help when those worthless responses come from moderators. FWIW, in the future I'll try not to add any sarcastic replys - and will try to give actual fact, or at least my genuine opinion from practical experience to posts [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] I hope the moderators will consider doing the same. Dogmeat [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 
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11-29-2005, 02:08 PM
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Re: Ever wonder why 2+2 is going downhill?
I read a thread earlier I thought someone made a good comment on...
Too often threads becoming pissing contests where everyone tries to sound like an expert and bash everyone else. I think we have alot of "gamers" (like online type, think StarCraft, Counterstrike, etc.) and this mentality of "l33tism" is prevelant in that community.
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#3
11-29-2005, 03:45 PM
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Re: Ever wonder why 2+2 is going downhill?
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Too often threads becoming pissing contests where everyone tries to sound like an expert and bash everyone else. [/ QUOTE ] I think this quote is most representative of reality, maybe not SO MUCH in the case of the mods, but certainly it holds true for many many underlings. Cambraceres
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#4
11-29-2005, 02:24 PM
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Re: Ever wonder why 2+2 is going downhill?
you state an opinion with no explanation. evan disagrees, expecting an explanation. you turn it around, expecting a couterargument from evan, though you've never argued your position in the first place. yes, i see a problem with this thread.
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#5
11-29-2005, 02:37 PM
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Re: Ever wonder why 2+2 is going downhill?
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you state an opinion with no explanation. evan disagrees, expecting an explanation. you turn it around, expecting a couterargument from evan, though you've never argued your position in the first place. yes, i see a problem with this thread. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe you are right. I guess I should have said "I don't see a significant difference in monetary return between folding and capping. If I fold, I lose zero. If I cap, I expect a very small return in the longrun, so I don't see much difference between the two. I actually thought my response was self-evident. Perhaps it was not.
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11-29-2005, 02:42 PM
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Re: Ever wonder why 2+2 is going downhill?
i typed out a long post concerning this then deleted it. then i typed out another long post about something else and deleted that too. i didnt like anything i had to say so i wont say it. evan probably relates.
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#7
11-29-2005, 02:46 PM
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Re: Ever wonder why 2+2 is going downhill?
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i typed out a long post concerning this then deleted it. then i typed out another long post about something else and deleted that too. i didnt like anything i had to say so i wont say it. evan probably relates. [/ QUOTE ] Should I just delete my response then?
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#8
11-29-2005, 03:03 PM
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Re: Ever wonder why 2+2 is going downhill?
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Maybe you are right. I guess I should have said "I don't see a significant difference in monetary return between folding and capping. If I fold, I lose zero. If I cap, I expect a very small return in the longrun, so I don't see much difference between the two. I actually thought my response was self-evident. Perhaps it was not. [/ QUOTE ] this explanation is just a wordier version of your original post. it doesn't add anything. how about explaining how you arrive at roughly 0 EV for a cap, and then explaining why a cap is better than a call?
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11-29-2005, 02:44 PM
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Re: Ever wonder why 2+2 is going downhill?
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I agree with Pete. Do I need to explain more, or be less sarcastic, because my name is in green? [/ QUOTE ] Both. I guess I would just like to be able to read a response (especially when it is from a moderator) that has some substance and redeeming value to it. Instead, a vast majority of responses state only an opinion that is not backed up with any facts or explanation (are are therefore worthless in most cases). Of course, this is just my opinion. Perhaps many people at 2+2 like reading just opinions. Dogmeat [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
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