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Old 11-21-2005, 09:55 PM
donger donger is offline
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Default 45s - 5/10 - I hate money

CO is TAG-ish. Flop bettor is an idiot. I had planned to play this passively, but when it got down to HU on the turn, I saw an opportunity. Is this spewy or good?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, BB folds, MP folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money

I like it.

What do you do when he calls and you don't improve on the river? What do you do if you hit your weak pairs on the river?
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money

I keep gunning if he calls, I expect him to call the turn. I was just trying to set up some river fold equity vs his weaker hands (most of which are flush draws).

I check-call my weak pairs.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money

If the idea is to take out a better flush draw, he's got to bet the river unimproved, and I assume cc with a little help.

I'm not crazy about this move against a TAG/unknown. I just don't think he has a laydown hand often enough to justify the extra 2BB.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money

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I keep gunning if he calls, I expect him to call the turn. I was just trying to set up some river fold equity vs his weaker hands (most of which are flush draws).

I check-call my weak pairs.

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Sounds like you have a good plan.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money

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If the idea is to take out a better flush draw, he's got to bet the river unimproved, and I assume cc with a little help.

I'm not crazy about this move against a TAG/unknown. I just don't think he has a laydown hand often enough to justify the extra 2BB.

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It's not actually 2 extra WHOLE BBs. I have 15 outs against a made hand, so it's a fraction (maybe 2/3s?) of a BB each street.

EDIT: I'm also CRing a 6, bet/3betting an A, and bet/calling if I hit a flush.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:25 PM
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Default Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money

Its okkkkk, not a huge fan but I don't mind it. Most Q's are calling down here, two pairs are 3-beting, same with sets, I guess this is one of those No-limit style plays where you bluff with outs.

Board needs to be a bit scarier for mine, but against a TAG its ok.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money

Sorry, I missed the OESD component. I agree - with your very decent equity this move has good risk/reward.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:37 PM
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Its okkkkk, not a huge fan but I don't mind it. Most Q's are calling down here, two pairs are 3-beting, same with sets, I guess this is one of those No-limit style plays where you bluff with outs.

Board needs to be a bit scarier for mine, but against a TAG its ok.

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Don't forget the 9s we fold out!
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Old 11-21-2005, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money

True. If the guy can fold [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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