2-5 NL live hand

wontons · #1 07-10-2005, 06:40 PM

UTG limps (pro player), UTG +2 limps, new player MP posts, im in BB with J6. Flop comes Q 6 6 with 2 clubs i have none. UTG bets out 15, new player raises to 75...i call, UTG folds. Turn comes 5c I check, new player immediatly goes all in for about 250...I have 80 invested and new player is looking very confident. I called on the flop because I doubt he would pop it so much with A6 and only other hand i have him beating me on is K6. How many of you would call this bet....

AZK · #2 07-10-2005, 06:49 PM

Are you serious? You have 6's full right? What's the question again?

wontons · #3 07-10-2005, 06:58 PM

Opps my bad the turn was like a 5 of clubs...so no i have J6 with board of Q 6 6 5

xorbie · #4 07-11-2005, 07:19 AM

Against someone else who posted? Easy call.

grass · #5 07-11-2005, 07:36 AM

a pro playing 2-5 live? that must be some god awful hrs.

doesn't seem like he's on the club draw. too many hands you can beat here. call

people who all-in immediately should tattoo the words "no nut" on their forehead.

MikeL05 · #6 07-11-2005, 07:48 AM

I think you HAVE to raise that flop, for precisely this reason. You're scared of the club, which might make you end up laying this down to an overpair. Raise the flop, and you take all of the overpair's money.

grass · #7 07-11-2005, 09:45 AM

Raise the flop, and you take all of the overpair's money.

overpr would call because??

Murderous · #8 07-11-2005, 09:54 AM

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UTG limps (pro player), UTG +2 limps, new player MP posts, im in BB with J6. Flop comes Q 6 6 with 2 clubs i have none. UTG bets out 15, new player raises to 75...i call, UTG folds. Turn comes 5c I check, new player immediatly goes all in for about 250...I have 80 invested and new player is looking very confident. I called on the flop because I doubt he would pop it so much with A6 and only other hand i have him beating me on is K6. How many of you would call this bet....

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He just posted so I think the range of hands you put him on is a bit small.

You could be looking at any two clubs, although, this seems somewhat unlikely.

Additionally, you could be looking at any 6...four combinations of which you are way behind...A6, K6, Q6, 65. I also don't believe you can rule out a 6 with a decent [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] kicker.

He could be overplaying a Q trying to quickly establish some sort of table image. And, considering the preflop limping, he could be pushing a weak queen off with 55, looking to drawing cheaply on the turn and river.

Your opponent is either really strong or really crazy. Your smooth call from the blinds and the turn 3-flush didn't scare him?? He is a donk or has a monster. Either way, it is likely you are beat at the turn.

For me, a call on the turn here depends largely on relative stack sizes at the table, my image and whether or not I feel like gambling.

Without ANY sort of read, the smart play is probably a fold on the turn but depending on my mood and stack, and considering this is his first hand at the table, I call and knuckle if he caught a monster. I want to get some information on his play that will pay dividends later.

If you're not getting away from this hand anyway...push to his $75 raise on the flop (or at least reraise).

I don't like the flop smooth-call.