JJ, early-mid tourney Party 20+2

[Dave D]

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I don't think he's sitting on AA or KK (and maybe QQ) as he just smooth called your reraise preflop and with his stack I'd think a preflop push would be more likely. I'd put him on AJ-AK, 77+. I'd bet ~2/3 of the pot, 600 and plan on calling a push. The only hand I'm REALLY afraid of is AK or AQ with the K or Q of clubs.

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I disagree that AA/KK or QQ neccessarily pushes back. Personally if I were villian I'd smooth call with those hands and try to get the other guy to committ to my all in on the flop. Moreso with AA/KK.

If you put him on an ace as about a half to one third of his range, why would you bet? That just plays right into what he wants me to do as he'll obviously push back, especially with AQ,AJ,AK, and maybe AT.

The point I've brought up earlier is if you plan on calling a push no matter what, why not just push and make him possibly have to make a difficult decision? Maybe I'll get a non club high pair to fold?

[mlagoo]

if you are betting this flop, and you should, it has to be a push so that villian doesn't have the "illusion" of fold equity. obviously there is very little calling you here that you beat, but the idea is that you don't get called and don't give him a chance to bluff you off of the best hand on the turn.

[Dave D]

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if you are betting this flop, and you should, it has to be a push so that villian doesn't have the "illusion" of fold equity. obviously there is very little calling you here that you beat, but the idea is that you don't get called and don't give him a chance to bluff you off of the best hand on the turn.

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WWYD here?

[mlagoo]

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if you are betting this flop, and you should, it has to be a push so that villian doesn't have the "illusion" of fold equity. obviously there is very little calling you here that you beat, but the idea is that you don't get called and don't give him a chance to bluff you off of the best hand on the turn.

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WWYD here?

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i think the only options are to (a) push the flop, or (b) to check it through and fold to a bet on a non-club turn/call or overpush to a bet on a club turn.

Obviously the worst case scenario on a flop push is you get called with AK/AQ with a club kicker, but there are also a lot of good/decent results: (1) folding out hands like clubless QQ/KK; (2) folding out hands like 99/TT before you give them a chance to bluff you off your hand on the turn; (3) getting it in against Ax (w/ no club) with 11 outs twice...

so i guess i push the flop.

edit: wanted to add, good hand, ive got to pack up stuff and head home for the holidays, but i'll be checking on this later to see what people had to say.

[FrogMouth]

Good news its a Pary 20+2 with blinds at 25/50 and the tourney is still full of dummys. Whatever you bet I don't see you getting away from it. I would bet $1250 and hopefully he realizes that you have a really strong hand and his A7 is no good.

[MLG]

Given the size of villains stack i would have made it 550ish pre, so that if I decided to bet the flop I wouldnt have these weird stack size issues.