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Old 10-05-2005, 12:55 AM
Drontier Drontier is offline
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Default Hand vs Goldmine.

Villain is 38.29/2.29/0.30 over 525 hands
my preflop was autopilot.
btw he is an unknown(krish's PT)

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.70 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.70 BB
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:01 AM
Lmn55d Lmn55d is offline
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Default Re: Hand vs Goldmine.

you gotta bet the turn against this sort of player. Bet it for value, he'll likely call with worse hands. Getting checkraised is fine because you know you are crushed and can fold easily. I would only take your river line against a very aggressive player who bluff checkraises often and who always bluffs the river when you show weakness on the turn. But even then, inducing the turn bluff checkraise and calling down is probably more profitable than checking. Against this sort of player you are losing a ton of value and giving him a free shot to beat you.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs Goldmine.

unfortunately he raised preflop. look at his pfr. im not sure but mixed with his AF, does he even bluff river when i check it to him?
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs Goldmine.

If I misclicked and reraised this rock with AQ, I'd just check behind on the flop and completely give up unless I improved. Best case scenario you're drawing to 3 outs.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs Goldmine.

I would still bet the turn and take a free showdown. It IS four-handed, the guy is essentially unknown (and very passive), and could have some hands that we're beating here.

Is this going too far?
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs Goldmine.

2.29% raise pf? I wonder if this is only AA KK QQ and JJ or its 2 random cards when he feels like it
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:18 AM
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Yeah, I got the implication and I have wondered about these guys myself. What I was curious about is if it being 4-handed changes things enough to merit trying to get to showdown. What was his WTSD? If he's tight, there's the upside that he might chicken out with AK on the turn if we bet..
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs Goldmine.

47% t.t
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs Goldmine.

OK, nevermind. I would take the same line as you. You get 2 likely free cards from a flop bet, and your A could be good if you hit it.

I would probably be confused about this preflop, but fold it and wonder if i had done the right thing.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs Goldmine.

yea i 3 bet too fast(on autopilot) and then read his pfr and said o [censored] plz dont cap.
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