Old Dynasty-style preflop question.

[Paluka]

I do not think this is even close to a call. I think folding is probably correct if you only see one 5.

[andyfox]

I'd probably fold also even if no cards were exposed. I'm out of position against a guy hwho plays well and, given it's 80-160 is probably aggressive. If I knew he was A-B-C, or very passive, or otherwise easy to push around, it would be a different story.

[surfdoc]

Unless he is capable of raising 22-44 this seems like a super easy fold. You are either a slight favorite or a huge dog. I am wondering why you posted this since there has to be some higher level thinking that is escaping my simple brain.

I would love for the dabate on what to do if you don't see any exposed cards to continue since that is a common situation and much more difficult.

[danderso8]

wasn't there a tommy article about a person who had zero outs because of an exposed pair like this, but went on to win the hand anyway?

that was funny, wish i could find it...

[PokerBabe(aka)]

Easy fold for obvious reasons.
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[BarronVangorToth]

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I would fold. I would probably also fold if I didn't see the other 5s exposed.

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Only one of these sentences I agree with.

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[gonores]

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You are either a slight favorite or a huge dog.

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Actually, I'm either a small dog or a practically dead dog.

[gonores]

I folded. Quietly. Had it been 30/60 or lower, I probably would have showed and giggled and ordered a beer, but I figured folding a pair face-up in the BB, even with the other 5s exposed, was still giving away too much info. I don't want to give anyone any more excuses to eye my blinds.

I'm surprised people advocate folding here without the exposed cards. You don't just have to play 55 for set value. It's not terrible in and of itself. Look for favorable ten-high flops or worse or one broadway card flops where you can easily define your hand and a pair at 3.5:1 has to be profitable.

[andyfox]

Small dog: 43.6% against As Qc
Almost dead dog: 2.6% against Ac As

[mr_jmac]

Hey,

What about the guy who folded accidentally ... against a solid player who i feel i don't have much of an edge over post flop i fold everytime in this spot.

Correct?