decision for all the chips

[Dominic]

okay, I'm in a $500 buy in that started with 550 players.
It's down to 26 players, I'm in the money, but the real pay-off doesn't hit until the final table.

blinds are 1500-3000 antes are 200

just moved to a new table.

I've got $40,000 in chips...in 7th place....pick up 77 on the button and it's folded around to me.

I raise to 8000. The BB raises all-in. I've got him covered but only by a little.

Your move?

And what of my raise in the first place? I assume no one is folding this when it's your turn to act...but do you call the all-in? Should I have put more pressure on the blinds by moving all-in myself?

thoughts, please....

[Exitonly]

W/ hands like that when i'm in a cliche steal position, i like pushing better, it's strong enough that i'll want to call a push, but i'd much rather just take it down PF. I don't want to let them think they have any fold equity on me, and it's not like your stack was huge anyways, only 13BB's.

So i push PF, and yea i thinkit's a call after he pushes.

[CardSharpCook]

we've done the math on this before. It is a call, but some would fold. Since "Dr. Dom" is gonna be a great series, I'll take you through the math.

OK, put your opponent on a range of hands. You are on the button AND BB is getting low at about 10-11BBs. Point? His pushing range will be increased. AA-55, AK-A9, KQ-KT. Obviously, AA is more likey than 55, but 22 does this sometimes too. So, against this reasonable range what is your equity?

We get handy-dandy pokerstove out, and we run some numbers:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 52.7542 % [ 00.52 00.01 ] { AA-55, AKs-A9s, KQs-KTs, AKo-A9o, KQo-KJo }
Hand 2: 47.2458 % [ 00.47 00.01 ] { 77 }

So, what are our pot odds? 14300 in the pot before he pushes, he pushes for say 38K (you were not specific) so it is 30K to you and a 49300 in the pot. 49300/30K = 1.64. You are getting 1.64:1 on the call. 1/2.64 = .38%. You need 38% eq. to make this a call, and you have 47%. You have to call this. It isn't even close.


Note to mods: We should sticky something like this. Maybe put this math in the threads sticky.

[Dominic]

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we've done the math on this before. It is a call, but some would fold. Since "Dr. Dom" is gonna be a great series, I'll take you through the math.

OK, put your opponent on a range of hands. You are on the button AND BB is getting low at about 10-11BBs. Point? His pushing range will be increased. AA-55, AK-A9, KQ-KT. Obviously, AA is more likey than 55, but 22 does this sometimes too. So, against this reasonable range what is your equity?

We get handy-dandy pokerstove out, and we run some numbers:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 52.7542 % [ 00.52 00.01 ] { AA-55, AKs-A9s, KQs-KTs, AKo-A9o, KQo-KJo }
Hand 2: 47.2458 % [ 00.47 00.01 ] { 77 }

So, what are our pot odds? 14300 in the pot before he pushes, he pushes for say 38K (you were not specific) so it is 30K to you and a 49300 in the pot. 49300/30K = 1.64. You are getting 1.64:1 on the call. 1/2.64 = .38%. You need 38% eq. to make this a call, and you have 47%. You have to call this. It isn't even close.


Note to mods: We should sticky something like this. Maybe put this math in the threads sticky.

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thanks...I knew it was a call, but I think the other guy was right - I shoulda pushed in the first place - at least I'd pick up some folding equity.

For what it's worth - the BB had AQ and caught an Ace on the flop.
Bastard.



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