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Old 08-29-2005, 02:20 AM
z32fanatic z32fanatic is offline
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Default Happy Hour KK hand. Fold Preflop?!

No reads on the villains, but the min raise is a little suspicious. At this point I have 1000 chips left, still plenty for this level. Call here and try to accumulate or fold preflop the Hellmuth way.

#Game No : 2615539695
***** Hand History for Game 2615539695 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:15254563 Level:2 Blinds (10/20) - Sunday, August 28, 22:39:06 EDT 2005
Table Happy Hour $10,000 Guaranteed(436271) Table #7 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: yia111 ( $1340 )
Seat 2: Luigi399 ( $1305 )
Seat 3: nErv_ ( $1925 )
Seat 4: Lintje ( $695 )
Seat 5: DaActionKid ( $1105 )
Seat 6: moneymannc ( $1005 )
Seat 7: rsaylor ( $1005 )
Seat 8: BillChen ( $920 )
Seat 9: acekicker_70 ( $230 )
Seat 10: z32fanatic1 ( $1455 )
Trny:15254563 Level:2
Blinds (10/20)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to z32fanatic1 [ Ks Kh ]
Lintje folds.
DaActionKid folds.
moneymannc calls [20].
rsaylor calls [20].
BillChen folds.
acekicker_70 folds.
z32fanatic1 raises [90].
yia111 raises [160].
Luigi399 calls [150].
nErv_ folds.
>You have options at Table 44803 Table!.
moneymannc folds.
rsaylor calls [140].
z32fanatic1 raises [410].
yia111 is all-In [1180]
Luigi399 is all-In [1145]
z32fanatic1......
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Old 08-29-2005, 02:21 AM
TomHimself TomHimself is offline
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Default Re: Happy Hour KK hand. Fold Preflop?!

Call everytime
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Old 08-29-2005, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: Happy Hour KK hand. Fold Preflop?!

never ever will i find a fold of KK preflop online.
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Old 08-29-2005, 02:52 AM
ZBTHorton ZBTHorton is offline
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Default Re: Happy Hour KK hand. Fold Preflop?!

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never ever will i find a fold of KK preflop online.

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Old 08-29-2005, 03:26 AM
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Default Re: Happy Hour KK hand. Fold Preflop?!

Its a good job you aren't a complete n00b (in terms of post count), otherwise i would cringe at the reactions this post would get.
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Old 08-29-2005, 03:31 AM
z32fanatic z32fanatic is offline
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Default Re: Happy Hour KK hand. Fold Preflop?!

There are some posts where it's an obvious call, like a person open pushes in a $20 party tourney or something. I thought this was a little tougher because it was a $100 tourney, my raise was min-reraised, my reraise to 500 was then REraised AND called. Not the typical "OMG FOLD KK?!?!!" post I thought.
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Old 08-29-2005, 03:45 AM
bmxreed36 bmxreed36 is offline
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Default Re: Happy Hour KK hand. Fold Preflop?!

I'll admit it really does look like aces here but hell, look at the pot at this point...around 2900 in there with 735 to call so you're pretty much getting "proper" odds if one of them does have aces. Add in the chance that neither one does have you beat and I think it's a call. I'll never feel bad goin out with kings but I would kick myself in the head if I folded and they showed queens and AK.
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Old 08-29-2005, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: Happy Hour KK hand. Fold Preflop?!

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fold preflop the Hellmuth way?

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*sigh*
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Old 08-29-2005, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: Happy Hour KK hand. Fold Preflop?!

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fold preflop the Hellmuth way?

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*sigh*

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I'd love to see Jean-Robert Ballande and Hellmuth play heads-up ...

first hand ... both with stacks of T1000 ... blinds 25/50
Phil raises from the SB with KK to 200
Ballande reraises from the BB with 22 to 400

Phil grimaces, stands up from his chair, circles the room lamenting about how he keeps running into monsters whenever he picks up a hand and amateurs usually go broke with his hand, and folds, showing his KK.

Ballande knocks the table ... "Excellent laydown, sir .. excellent laydown."
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Old 08-29-2005, 05:22 AM
The Deuce The Deuce is offline
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Default Re: Happy Hour KK hand. Fold Preflop?!

after the villain re-reaised to 160 you should have PUSHED!
no re-raising malarchy, just flat push.
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