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Old 12-20-2005, 12:06 PM
davelin davelin is offline
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Default Re: How not to Play AK?

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you never spew 2 BB without seeing the showdown and you'll never guarantee yourself a showdown for 1 SB unless the villain is the king of all passives.

if you raise the flop and he reraises, more likely than not, depending on your read, you can fold right there knowing your beat.

Its read dependent:
against tricky TAG line = raise the flop, if reraised, call and fold turn UI.
against solid TAG line = fold flop
against super-tricky-steal-with-anything TAG = might have to call down.
against Passive line = fold flop
against maniac = possibly call down.

in the 2/4 games i'm playing in i'd use the tricky TAG line most of the time and i'll either win it on the turn or i'll get a free showdown for 2 BB and win UI over 20% of the time.

in any other case, i don't make it to showdown, so i never "spew" 2 BB without seeing a showdown.

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I still hate your line. It has merit against a known maniac and that's about it IMO. What are we trying to accomplish against the opponents holdings?

Something that beats us - We're drawing, playing aggresively sucks, raising the flop and folding for one more bet sucks. The only merit is a possible free card on the turn but you want to bet the turn as well.

Something we split with (AKo) - I guess your line has merit to possibly try to push someone off this hand.

Something we dominate (AQo) - You don't want to push this guy off, you want this guy to bet into you with his dominated hodling.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:40 PM
WalkAmongUs WalkAmongUs is offline
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Default Re: How not to Play AK?

I see some of your points and other lines may be better for this particular situation...

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If you're going to play back, I'd rather do it on the flop.

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I still agree with this. If you're not going to play back then call flop and fold to a turn bet.

On a different flop however, my lines will be very useful in correct situations.

If the flop is something like Qxx, you should be raising the flop and betting the turn sometimes due to your combined chances of folding something you split with, folding a hand that would catch one of its outs against you on the river, folding a middle or low pair (or PP) that is actually ahead, or catching one of your outs and winning.

These combined make this line much better than check-calling when you're against certain opponents on certain flops.

Yet another post of mine that doesn't really relate to the OP's specific hand...
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