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View Poll Results: My SOP with KTo in MP:
Raise 27 72.97%
Fold 10 27.03%
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:29 AM
fimbulwinter fimbulwinter is offline
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Default The Math

What He's really asking is this:

EV neutrality => pot equity = pot odds
using .75 and .2 for equities vs field and AA:

he's paying 340 to play a ~815 pot so 340/815 = 41.7%

.417 = (x)(.2) + (1-x)(.75)
.417 - .75 = -.55x

x = 61% or less he has aces to make the call.

given my usual table image, i call this in a heartbeat every time. that said, if he's a solid regular weak/tight 20/4 midwest barry G fan, i lay it down.

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Old 07-15-2005, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: Simple KK hand

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I've posted several 'educational' posts about this exact same (or similar) situation. Call. Yes, you will be up against AA a solid portion of the time, but this will be long term +EV. I'd bet a house on it.

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Depends on the stakes. I'd be a lot more inclined to call at 3/6 than at .5/1. As you get into higher games, you see players start to make moves preflop. I personally don't even try things ilke reraising with 55 unless I think the other players are somewhat near decent, and it doesn't happen at low stakes. I think if you polled the Mid/High forum, you'd see a profit calling with KK, but at the SS forum, you'll see AA more often than anything else.
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Old 07-15-2005, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: Simple KK hand

Fold and wait for a better spot. If villain is decent, he should give you credit for re-raising out of the big blind. I can't see a pre-flop push from villain here w/ QQ or worse. He's probably putting you on a big pair and hoping you can't lay it down.
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: Simple KK hand

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yeah he may have Aces, but as harrington points out in his book this is only going to happen 1 in 24 times that you have kings,


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And if its 6max, it will be 1 in 40 or 41 times (dont remember which)
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