83s, standard?

DavidC · #1 07-06-2005, 01:36 AM

I do this often enough that I'd like to make sure I'm makign the correct plays. Please take a peak at the line leading up to the river.

FWIW, the guy that donk-bets the turn is bluffing A LOT.

I think the guy betting the flop is TAA.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, MP3 calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

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Firefly · #2 07-06-2005, 01:40 AM

Perfect, imho.
Too much equity to fold the flop and we sure can't fold the turn, so i like it.

NAU_Player · #3 07-06-2005, 01:41 AM

Flop:
-outs - 3 8s, 2 3s, 1.5 BDFD = 6.5 outs
-odds - 7:1
-odds needed for a profitable call: 6.1:1

Turn:
-outs - 9 clubs
-odds - 6:1
-odds needed for a profitable call: 4.1:1

DavidC · #4 07-06-2005, 01:44 AM

Holy [censored]! I'm SO glad that the river in this hand was easy to play!!

I'm pretty tired for some reason, and I just realized (I'm not sure I would have caught this in the hand) that an 8 is no longer good for me on the river.

A three will sometimes win, but an 8 will very seldom (never?) win.

Thanks guys.

--Dave.

hemstock · #5 07-06-2005, 01:48 AM

Just noticed that the board paired...
You still have your outs to make your call.

SoftcoreRevolt · #6 07-06-2005, 03:08 AM

Play it the same, and going nuts on the donk better if we hit a 3 or the flush... maybe less nuts if we hit the flush than if we hit bottom boat. If that makes sense.

xenthebrain · #7 07-06-2005, 05:36 AM

The flopcall is correct.
You get 7 to 1 for a ~6outer (twopair draw + BDFD, need 1 to 6.8).

You pick up a flushdraw on turn, but it's the only draw left for you IMO since the board paired.
It counterfeits your 2nd pair if you catch an eight and gives everyone with a 7 a better fullhouse when you hit a trey.

But you still get the odds to draw of course.

TomBrooks · #8 07-06-2005, 05:55 AM

Looks OK to me.