Curtains Hand #4 (Degen)

[microbet]

It's hard to tell not being in the game, but when you are in a game often times with a very loose player with a huge stack you are close to 100% certain he's going to make that bet on the flop with any two. Actually, often the only hands he won't do it with are good ones.

If villian is like that, I can't see calling preflop without planning to call the flop if you catch any piece.

[Paul Thomson]

I fold. I don't think he over bets the pot with a draw. But he does over bet the pot with a 5 or an over pair.

All of the other opponents but one have the same stack size as you. Therefore, ther is no reason that you have to make a move with this hand to get back into the tournament.

They'll be ample time to outplay this opponent later. Wait for a better opportunity.

I agree with Paul. And there is no point on catching a bluff now, if he's bluffing or think his ace high is best, let him think that way. It is not in your interest to keep him honest now. You can make a sacrifice to give some info to the other players at table, they'll appreciate.

He will be a good target to double up later.

[curtains]

Maybe I should have called, I don't know. Im pretty sure I let my timebank run for this one, and started talking to my opponent, asking what they had. For some reason I decided to fold in the end...as although the guy was crazy I didn't remember seeing him make any large allins like this. However upon reflection he was a bit nuts, and calling was PROBABLY +ev. I mean I called the guy with Queen high, I can't call with 2nd pair!

[Degen]

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Maybe I should have called, I don't know. Im pretty sure I let my timebank run for this one, and started talking to my opponent, asking what they had. For some reason I decided to fold in the end...as although the guy was crazy I didn't remember seeing him make any large allins like this. However upon reflection he was a bit nuts, and calling was PROBABLY +ev. I mean I called the guy with Queen high, I can't call with 2nd pair!

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you did indeed use the time bank and chat with him long enough for him to show you his 77. I still think there is a stong case for a call there.

[curtains]

I didnt notice that he showed. My instincts win again!

[golfcchs]

Am I missing something here, because I thingk this is an very easy fold. If he only has 2 overs you win about 60-65% of the time. But he could easily have over pair, or a flush draw and overs. Not to mention the random pair of 5's or strait draw.

[Degen]

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Am I missing something here, because I thingk this is an very easy fold. If he only has 2 overs you win about 60-65% of the time. But he could easily have over pair, or a flush draw and overs. Not to mention the random pair of 5's or strait draw.

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i disagree that its an easy fold, i chose to hide curtains' decision for that reason...the other hands i posted everybody was mostly in the 'duh, thats an easy decision' camp...and with this one there was much more debate on it

[willie]

turbo mucks.

66-aa
suited facecards

i don't think this is the spot to stick it to the guy.

Fold. Calling seems bad to me, mainly because we are getting very poor pot odds, plus the fact that even if he is bluffing we still lose 1 time in 3 or so.