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Old 03-17-2004, 11:12 AM
novamob novamob is offline
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Default JJ vs. ugly flop.....muck or push??

Loose passive table.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: (5.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB bets, BB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 5.50 BB, won by SB.</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 2: 1 BB, overbet by SB.</font>

Should I have even seen the turn here?
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Old 03-17-2004, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: JJ vs. ugly flop.....muck or push??

Muck on the flop, betting into a raiser is begging for a raise, so let it go, you dont have the odds to spike a Jack on the turn.
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Old 03-17-2004, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: JJ vs. ugly flop.....muck or push??

I usually fold here unless SB is the bluffy type. You have 2 good backdoor draws. If you're gonna play on, raise. Fold is usually your best bet here.
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