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Old 03-11-2004, 02:47 PM
Tosh Tosh is offline
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Default Set of Jacks in trouble

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, CO caps, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (20.33 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (12.66 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, MP3 calls, CO calls.

River: (24.66 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
MP3 checks, CO bets, Hero ... - what further action depending on what MP does ?
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Old 03-11-2004, 03:00 PM
Alobar Alobar is offline
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Default Re: Set of Jacks in trouble

yuck, I hate it when the board does that.

I probably raise here. There is no reason to think CO has a ten, and there are lots of hands MP3 would call 2 cold with twice. if you just call and mp3 raises, I could see the CO 3 betting it. If you raise and mp3 3 bets, your screwed, but its still all the same. I dunno.
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Old 03-11-2004, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: Set of Jacks in trouble

MP sure did withstand a lot of turn action. Sometimes I'll see a weak call-station play QQ like this but not often.

I think I call as there is not much more to gain as there is to lose.

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Joe Tall
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Old 03-11-2004, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Set of Jacks in trouble

IMO MP either has no tens, or has 2 of them. I think I call it down here, as getting raised would make me throw up.
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Old 03-11-2004, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: Set of Jacks in trouble

I agree with the others here and would call.

You don't want to shut out MP if you have him beat or give him a chance to 3 bet if he somehow has a ten.
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Old 03-11-2004, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Set of Jacks in trouble

Ok just to carry the action on. I called, MP3 raised, CO called. Call or fold?
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Old 03-11-2004, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: Set of Jacks in trouble

[ QUOTE ]
MP sure did withstand a lot of turn action. Sometimes I'll see a weak call-station play QQ like this but not often.

I think I call as there is not much more to gain as there is to lose.

Peace,
Joe Tall

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree with Joe Tall. There isn't much to gain by raising here. Don't be surprised to see TT [not too likely given the fourth street action] or even 9T for the turned nuts. Hope to be shown a massively overplayed two pair or a smaller set.

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Old 03-11-2004, 05:46 PM
WarmonkEd WarmonkEd is offline
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Default Re: Set of Jacks in trouble

a check-raise? hmm... I don't think CO has a ten based on previous actions, unless you think he's a lag capable of such aggression with JT or TT.

What was your read on MP3? I think it's possible he has a lesser set and was slowing playing it.

I would call the river.
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Old 03-11-2004, 05:58 PM
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Default Why not raise on the flop ?

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Old 03-11-2004, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Why not raise on the flop ?

Good question.

The only draw possible was a gutshot, so I didn't feel my hand was in any real immediate danger and wanted to give someone the chance to catch something on the turn that would make them stay through the rest of the hand although drawing dead - especially an overcard.
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