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Old 07-26-2005, 09:58 PM
Russ McGinley Russ McGinley is offline
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Default Re: Chad Brown: Worst Play Ever

Hmm, its 9:58 and Tran is all-in. Wonder who wins.

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Old 07-26-2005, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: Chad Brown: Worst Play Ever

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Yeah, Frangos' QQ laydown was a phenomenal decision.

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Results oriented.
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: Chad Brown: Worst Play Ever

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Yeah, Frangos' QQ laydown was a phenomenal decision.

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Results oriented.

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No. Results oriented would be if he folded QQ to JJ and the flop hit the J. You may think it is the wrong play, but results oriented is not a fair retort to someone who says this was a good laydown
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: Chad Brown: Worst Play Ever

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What's with Bartley's A5o push over the top? Awful...

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I'm not going to make any judgements on the hand between H. Tran & Chad Brown because we may not be aware of previous hands that may have led Chad to believe he was ahead in that spot with a pair of tens.

However, I really felt Bartley dropped the ball in the hand against H. Tran. He raised pre-flop with a weak ace (A-5o) and then has the chipleader come over the top of him with A-Qo. H. Tran has shown he's willing to gamble and after Bartley came back over the top, Tran was getting either close to or over 2-1 on his money (not exactly sure of the numbers). Tran is only a significant underdog to AA, KK, or AK in that spot.

Maybe Bartley's move there works against one of the medium stacks at the table (Lindgren for ex.) who aren't willing to risk a significant portion of their stack on what at best is a possible coin-flip. He tried a risky play on the wrong person. Just my random thoughts.
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: Chad Brown: Worst Play Ever

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Hmm, its 9:58 and Tran is all-in. Wonder who wins.

TWEE!

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Anyways, onto Chad Brown ... yes, that was a donkey play. But hes been to 2 or 3 final tables at the WSOP, he cant be THAT bad.
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: Chad Brown: Worst Play Ever

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Yeah, Frangos' QQ laydown was a phenomenal decision.

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Results oriented.

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No. Results oriented would be if he folded QQ to JJ and the flop hit the J. You may think it is the wrong play, but results oriented is not a fair retort to someone who says this was a good laydown

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No, he's saying it was a good laydown because Lindgren has kings. I'm not saying it wasn't a good laydown, I'm saying that ESPN doesn't give [censored] for information and you can't really tell how good or bad it is from a viewer's perspective.

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Old 07-26-2005, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: Chad Brown: Worst Play Ever

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Yeah, Frangos' QQ laydown was a phenomenal decision.

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Results oriented.

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raise, reraise, 3-bet in that situation, you think QQ is EVER good?
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: Chad Brown: Worst Play Ever

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Yeah, Frangos' QQ laydown was a phenomenal decision.

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Results oriented.

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raise, reraise, 3-bet in that situation, you think QQ is EVER good?

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Then why is it a phenomenal decision if you can make it so easily?
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:25 PM
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Default Re: Chad Brown: Worst Play Ever

I think a worse play occurred on the very same hand when Lindgren kept slowplaying his JJ. There was a point where there was a lot of dead money and he just kept letting people take the lead until he eventually folded. Why not push or at least raise?
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:30 PM
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I think a worse play occurred on the very same hand when Lindgren kept slowplaying his JJ. There was a point where there was a lot of dead money and he just kept letting people take the lead until he eventually folded. Why not push or at least raise?

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I was curious about this as well.
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