Just calling with flush - bad play?

#1 11-30-2005, 01:38 AM

No reads on players.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB raises, UTG calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, UTG calls, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, UTG raises, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
Main Pot: 13.50 BB, between UTG and Hero.

jt1 · #2 11-30-2005, 01:43 AM

check raise the flop. ...what position!

fold in the 1/3 blind structure preflop

Stork · #3 11-30-2005, 01:49 AM

I play it waay different.

First off, I fold pf first time around, particularly w/ the 1-3 blind structure. I suppose you gotta call once the bb raises, although it's close cause your hand really sucks.

Flop I definetely check-raise. You'll get action from a good king and straight draws will still play. An AK hand will probably call your c/r and then look to c/r a non-heart turn and you can 3-bet his ass. Also if anyone hits a straight on the turn they will raise you and you can 3-bet them, and if there is a higher heart out the flop isn't a bad place to start putting money in.

Given that you just called the flop, you gotta 3-bet the turn. Your hand is very well disguised up to this point, and you have no reason to think you're beat.

Given that you just called the turn, I'd lead the river. Given that you didn't do that either, raise the river. You're up against a lone ten here much more often than you're up against KT or 77 (the only hands UTG might have here that you could be worried about), since they are statistically less likely and they would've probably raised the flop.

#4 11-30-2005, 02:06 AM

Grunchilicious:

You need to play it fast to extract value from the Qh and Ah and any other random [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Oh, and notice how it sucks to complete with J2s in the SB and then get raised? Yeah, uh, that's why I don't complete J2s here.

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TheKentock · #5 11-30-2005, 02:07 AM

I would 3-bet the turn here. more likely UTG hit trips than a full house, and I'm not too concerned about the 2 higher flushes being out there. Maybe if a fourth heart hit.