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Old 04-07-2005, 11:31 PM
IHateCats IHateCats is offline
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Default PP NL600: Is this a must fold Full House on River?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

MP1 ($610.35)
MP2 ($194.8)
Hero ($932.73)
CO ($948.15)
Button ($570)
SB ($793.8)
BB ($607.35)
UTG ($318.85)
UTG+1 ($425)
UTG+2 ($559.6)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls $6, CO calls $6, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $17</font>, Hero calls $17, CO folds.

Flop: ($55) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $35</font>, Hero calls $35.

Turn: ($125) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $35</font>, BB calls $35.

River: ($195) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $125</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $320

I just don't see any realistic hand that he has here that I can beat except JJ and I highly doubt he leads out with that on the river but I've been sucked out on by this individual repeatedly today so it's entirely likley I've lost my perspective against him.

EDIT:
He's 15 VPIP, 5.2 PfR and a whopping aggro of 4.6 on the river. That's the bit that made this a very, very hard laydown, as near as I can tell he bluffs at almost every river and it's why I was slowplaying him but this time it seems highly likely he's got the goods and it bit me in the ass.
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:37 PM
Bukem_ Bukem_ is offline
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Default Re: PP NL600: Is this a must fold Full House on River?

Why are you slowplaying this?
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: PP NL600: Is this a must fold Full House on River?

This fold looks really good, but the turn bet looks really bad. This is an action board, why not try to get some? Although, the only hand you can beat on the turn is AK...
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: PP NL600: Is this a must fold Full House on River?

any stats/reads on villian?
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: PP NL600: Is this a must fold Full House on River?

This particular individual is very prone to raising out of the blinds with weaker hands including AQ or even AJs occasionally so AQ is a possibility along with JJ that I still have beat on the turn but your point is well taken, either a bigger bet and I'm done with the hand if I get action or simply a check and hope to get to a showdown cheap and see AK or AQ (assuming no A or K on the river).
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: PP NL600: Is this a must fold Full House on River?

Yea, you need more chips in on the flop... you can be assured he hit that flop, you dont need a huge raise, but you need a nice raise on the flop i think so your turn bet can be larger without looking out of line. If he calls you there and suckts out fine, but dont let him do it for free
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: PP NL600: Is this a must fold Full House on River?

The villian in this particular hand is very prone to massive overbets on the river with top pair against anyone who hasn't shown strength in the hand but unfortunately I can't assume it's a bluff this time since his preflop action restricts him to JJ, AK, AQ or better most of the time.
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: PP NL600: Is this a must fold Full House on River?

He's 15 VPIP, 5.2 PfR and a whopping aggro of 4.6 on the river. That's the bit that made this a very, very hard laydown, as near as I can tell he bluffs at almost every river but this time it seems highly likely he's got the goods.
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Old 04-08-2005, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: PP NL600: Is this a must fold Full House on River?

i call the river i just dont think your hand is nearly defined enough that he can be value betting a worse hand.
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Old 04-08-2005, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: PP NL600: Is this a must fold Full House on River?

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The villian in this particular hand is very prone to massive overbets on the river with top pair against anyone who hasn't shown strength in the hand but unfortunately I can't assume it's a bluff this time since his preflop action restricts him to JJ, AK, AQ or better most of the time.

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He's bad enough to check-call your tiny bet with AQ?
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