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Old 09-23-2005, 02:17 PM
tolbiny tolbiny is offline
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Default Re: I concede that.......

Damn those liberal bastards who use to much hyperbole to support their arguments. They are responsible for 99.99999999% of all the problems in the us.
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: The Ice Caps on Mars are Melting...

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Wait, there are no cars on Mars. Could a hotter sun be warming up Mars climate as well?

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the article that you cite says:
Like Earth, Mars has seasons that cause its polar caps to wax and wane. "It's late spring at the south pole of Mars," says planetary scientist Dave Smith of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "The polar cap is receding because the springtime sun is shining on it."

it doesn't mention anything about increased solar activity being responsible for its ice caps melting.
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: Global Warming Cause: The Sun is Burning Hotter

the first article you cite also says:

Dr Solanki said that the brighter Sun and higher levels of "greenhouse gases", such as carbon dioxide, both contributed to the change in the Earth's temperature but it was impossible to say which had the greater impact.

so again, not necessarily due solely to increased solar activity.
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: Global Warming Cause: The Sun is Burning Hotter

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Eventually our sun will burn out and I suppose will turn into a black hole. Then the earth won't have to worry about global warming ever again...

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Actually, it'll become a white dwarf; it's not massive enough to be a black hole.

Just thought I'd stick that in [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:35 PM
Felix_Nietsche Felix_Nietsche is offline
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Default Re: The Ice Caps on Mars are Melting...

Another Link
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/585793/posts

``This is not a seasonal change.''
-Michael A. Caplinger, a scientist with Malin Space Science Systems-

You can't blame the warming of Mars climate on the automobile or cement factories. NATURAL CAUSES are responsible for the climate changes on Mars. The global warming cult can NOT rule out NATURAL CAUSES for the global warming on Earth....... The research that the sun burning hotter is one more nail in the shoddy science coming from the global warming cult.

Global warming is occuring and it will cause problems on Earth.
BUT.....we need to stop listening to the wackos like Michael Mann who have falsified data in return for more government research grants. Science should be based on the scientific method....not politics. The more people learn about these crooks robbing the government blind with their false research the better.... We need to learn to adapt to the climate changes on Earth not follow these assinine treaties like Kyoto which will accomplish nothing but increasing unemployment.

I predict within 50 years the global warming cult will be completely exposed as frauds and people will learn that the banning of products like Freon was completely unncessary....
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:45 PM
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I predict within 50 years the global warming cult will be completely exposed as frauds and people will learn that the banning of products like Freon was completely unncessary....

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Freon is a chlorofluorocarbon (CFC) that destroys the ozone layer. and I'm pretty sure everyone is in agreement on that one.
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Old 09-23-2005, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Global Warming Cause: The Sun is Burning Hotter

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Funny how none of the usual liberals here have anything to say.

Clearly, Bush is responsible for the Mars global warming.

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You are so dumb! This clearly shows that Bush's lax environmental policies are causing the Sun to get hotter.
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Old 09-23-2005, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: The Ice Caps on Mars are Melting...

So basically, the conservative position has gone from "it's not happening" to "it's happening, but you guys were totally wrong about why"?
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Old 09-23-2005, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: The Ice Caps on Mars are Melting...

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So basically, the conservative position has gone from "it's not happening" to "it's happening, but you guys were totally wrong about why"?

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I think the thinking person's position has always been: "These things go in cycles"


Of course, Bush is to blame for the last Ice Age.
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Old 09-23-2005, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: The Ice Caps on Mars are Melting...

"I predict within 50 years the global warming cult will be completely exposed as frauds and people will learn that the banning of products like Freon was completely unncessary...."

CFC's destroy the ozone layer in the stratosphere. The ozone blocks UV light from the sun that can harm us. CFC's were not banned because of global warming, they were banned because they contributed to a hole in the ozone layer.

Global warming (or the theory behind it) is caused by excess levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, which in turn absorb longwave radiation from the earth and do not allow it to escape into space, thus warming the earth.

These are 2 seperate issues.
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