Q for Dealers: Pool Your Tips or Keep Your Own? - Page 2

canis582 · #11 03-02-2005, 05:48 PM

Where do they pool them and where do they keep their own in Vegas and AC? Does anyone specificly know for the monte carlo, Bellagio, trop and borg?

If I like the dealer, I toke them one or two when they get up. Does anyone else? Its a waste if they get pooled.

scrub · #12 03-02-2005, 05:49 PM

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Where do they pool them and where do they keep their own in Vegas and AC? Does anyone specificly know for the monte carlo, Bellagio, trop and borg?

If I like the dealer, I toke them one or two when they get up. Does anyone else? Its a waste if they get pooled.

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Trop and Borg the dealers keep them.

Foxwoods is the only place I've played where they pool them.

scrub

Bremen · #13 03-02-2005, 05:55 PM

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Toking based on the size of the pot is silly.

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Agreed. It is amazing how much moving up changes ones views on tipping. I used to tip up to $5 on a huge pot in a 2/4 game, now I play 1/2 NL and on a $300 pot I might tip $2.

Rams_Law · #14 03-03-2005, 02:04 AM

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Where do they pool them and where do they keep their own in Vegas and AC? Does anyone specificly know for the monte carlo, Bellagio, trop and borg?

If I like the dealer, I toke them one or two when they get up. Does anyone else? Its a waste if they get pooled.

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Real easy to tell: if the dealer leaves the tip box at the table, they pool; if it goes with them, it's theirs.

Tangent question: What's up with Turning Stone dealers taking the chip tray with them? I get the security aspect, like a cashier at the supermarket who has their own drawer that leaves the register with them, but TS is the only place I've seen that does this.

Clarkmeister · #15 03-03-2005, 02:24 AM

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I make $4 per hour

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C'mon. No you don't.

You need to get over the "poor me the poor poor dealer" attitude you've been posting with.

I'd be shocked if it didn't carry over into your attitude in the box, which could just be exacerbating the problem. Working in Colorado your avg toke rate is likely in the $22-25/hr range, maybe even higher, and is in addition to your salary. The complaining is disingenuous at best.

bigfishead · #16 03-03-2005, 04:29 AM

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I make $4 per hour

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C'mon. No you don't.

You need to get over the "poor me the poor poor dealer" attitude you've been posting with.

I'd be shocked if it didn't carry over into your attitude in the box, which could just be exacerbating the problem. Working in Colorado your avg toke rate is likely in the $22-25/hr range, maybe even higher, and is in addition to your salary. The complaining is disingenuous at best.

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Clarky....I'm makin no comment about the "poor me's", But I think he meant his WAGE is $4.00 hr. Which I would tend to say is true. I know we have dealers in our house that get paid that. I personally get a whopping $5.40 hr....but we are only speaking of wage. I think he is saying we NEED tokes as the wage is so minimal. And that I know you agree with.

Al_Capone_Junior · #17 03-03-2005, 11:49 AM

Absolutely keep your own. That way the dealers are motivated to get better, and the best dealers make the most money. There's no other system that makes any sense to me. Pooled tips allow major slackers a free ride on the good performance of others, while individual tips force everyone to get better and better.

Note that poker is basically the only game this system would work for, craps, blackjack etc need pooled tips, because certain of those games tend to get nuch more tips.

al

Photoc · #18 03-03-2005, 05:35 PM

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Note that poker is basically the only game this system would work for, craps, blackjack etc need pooled tips, because certain of those games tend to get nuch more tips.

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I completely agree. I have been in both areas of the casino. Unless a casino spreads only BJ, then pooling is absolutely necessary. Games like Let it Ride, 3 Card, Pai Gow (either one), craps, baccarat, and so on...all suck in tips. Bj and Roulette are the only good tipping games for the dealers.

Poker on the other hand, you all deal the same tables in order, every day. So the best will get the most, and the worst will want to get better to make more money.

tubalkain · #19 03-03-2005, 10:28 PM

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Absolutely keep your own. That way the dealers are motivated to get better, and the best dealers make the most money. There's no other system that makes any sense to me. Pooled tips allow major slackers a free ride on the good performance of others, while individual tips force everyone to get better and better.

Note that poker is basically the only game this system would work for, craps, blackjack etc need pooled tips, because certain of those games tend to get nuch more tips.

al

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This is why I won't tip in a place where it's pooled. Why subsidize the slackers who don't truly earn tips?

Photoc · #20 03-03-2005, 10:43 PM

Annor

In some joints, dealers and other casino personnel can accept a "personal gift" valued up to 100 or 200 bucks. Thats how I got a very hard to get special edition 25$ chip from one place I worked. The floor even told the guy, when I was a pit dealer, that when I go on break, just to hand it to me as long as I clear my hands and such.

Thats how I got around the pooled thing when I played at Foxwoods a few years ago. Just hand the dealer a nickle as they are leaving the poker room and tell them it's a personal gift [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]