Can AA be overvalued preflop early in MTT?

sandrew · #1 05-09-2005, 11:18 AM

Last night i played a live $220 tourney. I got aces cracked (3 rd tournament in a row)..

Set up:

Last hand of the 1st round. I have just won the last 4 or 6 hands. Built my chip stack up from the starting 800 to about 2K give or take. Blinds are currengly 5/15.

I am sitting on the button with AA. Everyone folds to me I raise to 60 (4x bb). BB who has 400 or so more than me puts me all in. I call. He shows JJ to my AA. However out comes the J. I'm out in the first 30 minutes.

I replayed this in my head and thought i would have done the same thing with KK and AKs.

My thoughts in calling were:

a.) I have AA can't start any better.
b.) I can serverly cripple a player.
c.) I will be sitting in good chip position early.

Would anyone have folded AA? Aren't you an 9-1 favorite or better? I can't remember the exact odds.

I get 1 tourney a month and always get knocked out showing the best hand either after flop (AA with rags or AK pairing K no A on the bd).. I am hoping that eventually these plays start showing +EV. I have only played 4 live tourneys so maybe not enough for +EV yet?

schwza · #2 05-09-2005, 11:26 AM

bad beat post said what?

willie · #3 05-09-2005, 11:26 AM

here comes the fold AA police.

no, you're not a 9-1 favorite, you're 4-1 i believe.

my chips beat his in the pot if he overplays jacks that fast.

tough break.

meow_meow · #4 05-09-2005, 11:27 AM

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Would anyone have folded AA? Aren't you an 9-1 favorite or better? I can't remember the exact odds.

I get 1 tourney a month and always get knocked out showing the best hand either after flop (AA with rags or AK pairing K no A on the bd).. I am hoping that eventually these plays start showing +EV. I have only played 4 live tourneys so maybe not enough for +EV yet?

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Oh great, a "should I have folded AA preflop?" and bad beat whine all in one post....

And no, you aren't a 9-1 favorite.

betgo · #5 05-09-2005, 11:28 AM

You never want to get too much money in preflop with AA. My guide to tournament play explains how to play AA. Here is the link.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...=2#Post2350862

sandrew · #6 05-09-2005, 11:31 AM

This was not ment as a whine.. It was a real generic question about early play in a tournament with AA.. Didn't mean for it to sound like a whine.

I enjoy playing tournaments live. And was looking for a little advice for early preflop play when its your tournament life at stake.

betgo · #7 05-09-2005, 11:34 AM

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This was not ment as a whine.. It was a real generic question about early play in a tournament with AA.. Didn't mean for it to sound like a whine.

I enjoy playing tournaments live. And was looking for a little advice for early preflop play when its your tournament life at stake.

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Then please post on the Beginners forum.

Are you interested in playing heads up?

woodguy · #8 05-09-2005, 11:35 AM

**WAHHHHHHH I LOST A 2 OUTER!!!**
**THAT'S NOT FAIR!!!! WAHHHHHHH**

mjm · #9 05-09-2005, 11:37 AM

9-1 odds!? Did he only have one hole card? Betgo are you serious, I will happily put any amount of money I can afford to lose in with A-A pre-flop if I can be sure of a caller. Bad beats happen.

schwza · #10 05-09-2005, 11:37 AM

don't be discouraged by the replies to this post (mine included) - 2+2 is actually really useful. we just get sick of people writing posts that are, frankly, kind of dumb. of course you want to get all the chips in pre-flop with aces, you're a big favorite against any hand (run stats here. you'll get the best feedback if you post specific hands, and there is never a good reason to post results in a hand.