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Old 12-06-2005, 02:02 PM
RiverDood RiverDood is offline
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Default Re: Out of Position

Tricky hand -- and a great reason to start taking notes on your opponents.

Do your opponents include someone who previously played 66 to the river, regardless of how mnay overs hit the board? Don't expect to blast out that guy no matter how many continuation bets you fire.

Do your opponents include people who previously raised and then folded when they missed the flop? Now a couple continuation bets by you look much stronger.

Also, if it's a multiway pot, what do you know about the first player to act after you? If he's tight and likely to fold, each succeeding player will be offered crummy odds to stay in, assuming you make continuation bets. If he's a calling station and is likely to stay in with a gutshot, bottom pair, etc., then later players with draws or middle pairs are being given odds to call your continuation bet, too.

At .50/$1, I've found playing styles vary wildly. Maniacs, rocks and calling stations sit side by side. Far more so than at the tiny limits (everyone is LP) or at higher limits (people start to know what they're doing.) Taking even cursory notes helps a lot in knowing what line might work best in delicate situations.
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Old 12-06-2005, 02:10 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: Out of Position

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pf Raise, flop bet, turn bet, riv check is pretty standard line UI.

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OOP with "a few" cold-callers, this is often spewage.

AK is tough to play OOP when it misses. Failure to raise preflop (if you're worried about cold-callers) is a gigantic leak. Betting the flop UI against three or more players is often a leak. Betting the turn UI against two or more players is often a leak (unless you have specific reason to believe they'll fold). The decision to check-call/check-fold the flop depends on the board texture, pot size, number of villains in the pot, their aggression level, and a number of other factors.

Nobody said that strong hands had to be easy.
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Out of Position

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pf Raise, flop bet, turn bet, riv check is pretty standard line UI.

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OOP with "a few" cold-callers, this is often spewage.

AK is tough to play OOP when it misses. Failure to raise preflop (if you're worried about cold-callers) is a gigantic leak. Betting the flop UI against three or more players is often a leak. Betting the turn UI against two or more players is often a leak (unless you have specific reason to believe they'll fold). The decision to check-call/check-fold the flop depends on the board texture, pot size, number of villains in the pot, their aggression level, and a number of other factors.

Nobody said that strong hands had to be easy.

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That's the best answer for me so far...and something that I only figured out recently myself.
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