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Old 11-21-2005, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: Intentionally tabling cards - exposing cards in a tournament

If someone uses Doyle as an excuse for this move say the same thing I say when someone calls a bunch of pre-flop raises with T2o and use Doyle as an excuse: "You're not Doyle."
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Old 11-21-2005, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Intentionally tabling cards - exposing cards in a tournament

this may be a play by the offender but more than likely he acted out of turn and left the decision up to the SB to bet any amount he could. He exposed his hand and this could have been very costly for him, luckily he was winning
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: Intentionally tabling cards - exposing cards in a tournament

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These kind of theatrics make for great TV so if you're on the WTP or WSOP then go for it. Otherwise, think silently and fold or call.


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Haha it's also successfully, and admittedly, been used by one of the most successful and by far most popular high stakes player of all time (I think his name's Doyle or something) for decades. So don't make it out to be mere showmanship. It's also not a violation of a single rule of tourney poker (in most rooms) and even cash games in many casinos and if a player feels it helps he/she get a read then go for it. Of course I don't like all the talk but don't criticize the guy, some people prefer to think out loud. Either way, not an angle shoot.

DICLAIMER: I NEVER GO WITH THAT MOVE. JUST STATING THAT MANY PLAYERS (Including a man who is arguably the "greatest" NL hold em player of all time) DO CONSIDER IT A SMART, USEFUL STRATEGY.

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Just wondering if you could tell me a few more of these "many" players. Also Doyle wrote that book how long ago, have you watched him play lately and seen him do that, I doubt he even does that in the big game.

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I think Tical was referencing SS2, which I have not read, but is relativly new.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:24 PM
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this may be a play by the offender but more than likely he acted out of turn and left the decision up to the SB to bet any amount he could. He exposed his hand and this could have been very costly for him, luckily he was winning

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That's not what happened. SB was ALREADY all-in. Offender did his little speech to find out if offender should call or fold. If Offender turned over the cards and SB indicated that SB beat the hand, Offender would claim "I was trying to fold." But since SB showed weakness, Offender was able to say "I call" at the end.

I would definitely institute a rule making this illegal from now on. Let him win that pot (he did win it because SB mucked). But from now on, you can't show cards until you've verbally called.
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Old 11-22-2005, 03:26 PM
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Yes that comes from SS2, but it was originally in SS1 which is how old again? I'm not saying it no longer applies, just pointing out that reference may no longer apply.
Also, as someone pointed out already for me, there is only ONE Doyle Brunson.
To make the point further, Michael Jordan sticks his tongue out and takes off from the foul line to dunk on people, maybe I'll start that too.
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Old 11-22-2005, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Intentionally tabling cards - exposing cards in a tournament

These kinds of things are EXACTLY why I love my home game. I would never do it in a "real" tournament, but I do it all the time w/ my friends in our weekly $20 tourney.
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