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Old 12-10-2005, 01:00 PM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default $10/20 stud high fiasco

This was on Party, but seat 1 is someone I recognize as a half-decent regular on Stars. The other guy is unknown to me.

7 Card Stud High ($10/$20), Ante $1, Bring-In $3 (converter)
3rd Street - (0.50 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___completes___calls
Seat 3: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 8: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds

4th Street - (9.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 3: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (6.40 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 3: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (9.40 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 3: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls

River - (12.40 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___bets
Seat 3: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___calls
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls

Total pot: (15.40 BB)
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Old 12-10-2005, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: $10/20 stud high fiasco

I don't get the 6th street check.
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Old 12-10-2005, 02:16 PM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: $10/20 stud high fiasco

Do you think I have the best hand? Do you think I am getting anyone to fold?
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:35 AM
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Default Re: $10/20 stud high fiasco

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Do you think I have the best hand? Do you think I am getting anyone to fold?

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I think it’s more likely you have the best hand then it was on 5th, for instance.
The only way that 9c helped seat 1 is if he has the case 9, the case queens or two of the six remaining clubs in the hole. He should have, and probably would have, raised you with kings up on 5th or with jacks up on 4th. Thus, I think you are ahead of him most of the time.
The 7h seat 3 just caught doesn’t look that scary either. It is unlikely that he has a flush, since you have the Qh.
Also, you have seat 3 out-kicked now.
So I think you should bet for value here.

Btw, I agree with blumpkin and Ray that this should be folded on 3rd.
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Old 12-10-2005, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: $10/20 stud high fiasco

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This was on Party, but seat 1 is someone I recognize as a half-decent regular on Stars.

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Does his name start with an "h"? If so, you should try to put him on tilt [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 12-10-2005, 02:23 PM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: $10/20 stud high fiasco

i don't really know how to feel about this hand. seat 1 seems to have jacks up at worst or a straight with the case Q starting QJJ or something. if seat 1 doesn't have the case Q then i think seat 3 started with it (or burried kings). i don't think seat 3 can (or should) call the river with just one pair and that poses problems for your hand. i'd probably call but i don't know if i'd feel good about it.
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Old 12-10-2005, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: $10/20 stud high fiasco

Tough spot here, my guess is that seat 1 has J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Kx in the hole, or at least J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Seems like seat 3 doesn't have KK or AA in the hole (if he did, played it weakly). I think seat 3's most likely hand is some sort of straight draw with a Q, that made two pair on the river. I'm tempted to say get out on 6th, because you're probably drawing to one of the 3 aces in the deck, and that might not be good in seat 1 gets a flush or seat 3 gets a straight.
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: $10/20 stud high fiasco

Andy- this is a tough but correct fold on 3rd.

-The 3rd St. Police
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Old 12-10-2005, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: $10/20 stud high fiasco

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Andy- this is a tough but correct fold on 3rd.

-The 3rd St. Police

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Why?
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: $10/20 stud high fiasco

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Quote:
Andy- this is a tough but correct fold on 3rd.

-The 3rd St. Police



Why?


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1. there was a raise and reraise before hero
2. the dead queen
3. small pot
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