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Turned a Big Draw, Bet or Check Behind?
From tonite's 45k, Villain is GambleAB. I get confused as to whether I should be betting here...
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Button (t6700) SB (t17160) BB (t10825) UTG (t11625) UTG+1 (t6580) MP1 (t4425) Hero (t17795) MP3 (t16275) CO (t5790) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls t500, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: (t1400) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t800</font>, SB calls t800. Turn: (t3000) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, Hero ??? |
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Re: Turned a Big Draw, Bet or Check Behind?
i fire again, then crap my pants if he check raises me [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
I think enough people fold to the second bet here for it to be good though. |
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Re: Turned a Big Draw, Bet or Check Behind?
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i fire again, then 3 bet him if he check raises me [/ QUOTE ] FYP Regards, Woodguy |
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Re: Turned a Big Draw, Bet or Check Behind?
I'd almost never 3-bet all in here, could i be enlightend? We are assuming good FE against a thinking opponent like Gamble right?
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Re: Turned a Big Draw, Bet or Check Behind?
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I'd almost never 3-bet all in here, could i be enlightend? We are assuming good FE against a thinking opponent like Gamble right? [/ QUOTE ] After putting the range through pokerstove, I'm pretty sure I'm wrong here. He needs to be bluffing 30% of the time if we give him all sets and straight draws/made straights in his range. Oops. Regards, Woodguy |
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Re: Turned a Big Draw, Bet or Check Behind?
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[ QUOTE ] I'd almost never 3-bet all in here, could i be enlightend? We are assuming good FE against a thinking opponent like Gamble right? [/ QUOTE ] After putting the range through pokerstove, I'm pretty sure I'm wrong here. He needs to be bluffing 30% of the time if we give him all sets and straight draws/made straights in his range. Oops. Regards, Woodguy [/ QUOTE ] Wasn't it earlier today that you described yourself as weak-tight? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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Re: Turned a Big Draw, Bet or Check Behind?
I don't see any sort of a made hand he could be playing like this... so by checking behind you're just giving him a free card to complete his draw, while I don't think you'll need to make yours to win this one. I bet about 2K there, and bet the river if the straight/flush draw misses.
I would not be worried about getting check-raised on that turn. The FE of your 3-bet all-in with those stack sizes combined with the odds of hitting make it an automatic play. But I could be wrong. btw, this assuming a standard opponent... is there anything special about the one you mentioned? Kirk |
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Re: Turned a Big Draw, Bet or Check Behind?
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I don't see any sort of a made hand he could be playing like this... so by checking behind you're just giving him a free card to complete his draw, while I don't think you'll need to make yours to win this one. I bet about 2K there, and bet the river if the straight/flush draw misses. I would not be worried about getting check-raised on that turn. The FE of your 3-bet all-in with those stack sizes combined with the odds of hitting make it an automatic play. [/ QUOTE ] I agree, at this point with this hand that's my standard line. I'm willing to push to a check-raise as a semi-bluff, and if I'm behind I'll just hit a diamond on the river [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: Turned a Big Draw, Bet or Check Behind?
I agree that I don't see any made hands taking this line, unless Hero has established a LAG image that is likely to bet on every street and villain is simply using hero's aggression against him. Behind to a lot of hands, I take the free card.
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Re: Turned a Big Draw, Bet or Check Behind?
take the free card and call a non-spade river (or bet/raise if you get there)
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