Post flop Questions

shaundeeb · #1 03-12-2005, 06:16 PM

Not sure if I made the right move betting the flop, checking behind on the turn and just calling the river.
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $15.
Hero raises, 3 folds, CO (poster) calls, 2 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, CO calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.66 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO folds, BB calls.

Turn: (7.33 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (7.33 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.33 BB

Kaz The Original · #2 03-12-2005, 06:29 PM

You don't raise this river?

surfdoc · #3 03-12-2005, 08:13 PM

Hand looks good to me until the river. Did you really fear just 1 card?

URMeowed · #4 03-12-2005, 08:23 PM

You played the hand fine. You can consider raising the river but calling isn't all bad. What I thought of BB's overall game would lead me to call or raise.

Meow.

gaming_mouse · #5 03-12-2005, 08:36 PM

Let's assume BB has the standard 3-bet range here for a conservative estimate:

AA - 3
KK - 6 (3 containing K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img])
QQ - 1
JJ - 6
AK - 12 (3 containg K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img])

We can eliminate some of these hands if we know how he plays (eg, some players would raise the flop/bet the turn w/ AA). But using the above as a baseline there you are a 22:6, or almost 4:1 favorite to be ahead, meaning you have good odds on your raise, which is a 2:1 proposition assuming he calls.

However, if you think he must have a heart to bet here:

AA - 0
KK - 3
QQ - 0
JJ - 3
AK - 3

you are a big dog, and the call is clearly correct. So if this guy is a smart, Clarkmeister theorem kind of guy, I like a raise. Otherwise the call is good.