Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Other Topics > Politics
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

View Poll Results: What's your move?
call, getting 27:1 pot odds 5 18.52%
fold, hoping SB just made a miraculously stupid play AND the big stack takes the pot 22 81.48%
Voters: 27. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 10-29-2005, 05:09 PM
bobman0330 bobman0330 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 52
Default Re: Regulated human reproduction

[ QUOTE ]
Small sample size. Come on, I thought we were all poker players here ^_^

[/ QUOTE ]

My null hypothesis for this sample was that the vote would be 100%-0%, or possibly (if you actually support this) 99.9%-1 vote. Those results allowed me to reject both versions of the null with 100% certainty.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-29-2005, 05:42 PM
mackthefork mackthefork is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 82
Default Re: Regulated human reproduction

I vote NO, also this isn't science fiction it is very easy and very possible for government to impose these types of restrictions.

Mack
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-29-2005, 06:09 PM
Olof Olof is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Uppsala
Posts: 67
Default Re: Regulated human reproduction

I don't think pre-emptive sterilization can ever be morally justified, and I would never accept that the government did this to my future children. I do however think that people who doesn't take care of their children properly should be stopped from reproducing further.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-29-2005, 06:11 PM
lehighguy lehighguy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 590
Default Re: Regulated human reproduction

I typed up a whole response, but I think it would be wasted. I'm giving this post the attention it deserves.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-29-2005, 06:21 PM
jokerthief jokerthief is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1
Default Re: Regulated human reproduction

[ QUOTE ]
My argument for two basically goes that, based upon the principle that people should have the freedom to do what they want provided that it harms no one else, raising a child in destitute conditions is harmful to that child, and the child should be protected from a shitty existence.

[/ QUOTE ]

This makes a rather arrogant assumption that no existence is better than a meager existence. This is something no living person can fully justify since so human can comprehend never existing.

Also this assumption could then be used to justify genocide. This is a dark path to be followed.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-29-2005, 06:56 PM
jokerthief jokerthief is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1
Default Re: Regulated human reproduction

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Uhhhhhhhh....some turn of the century eugenicists called.

They want their ideas back.

[/ QUOTE ]

Unfortunately, some countries had officially sanctioned eugenics programs through the 1970s. I wish such things were 100 years behind us.

And if I had to guess, I don't think it will be 100 years before we see such state-sponsored eugenics programs again.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is interesting. Do know off hand the names of some of the countries?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-29-2005, 07:27 PM
Bez Bez is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: West Yorkshire, England
Posts: 516
Default Re: Regulated human reproduction

No one should ever be given this kind of power. Who the hell has the right to tell me I can't have kids? Also, the population could well fall dramatically over time, messing up the whole country.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-29-2005, 07:54 PM
Olof Olof is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Uppsala
Posts: 67
Default Re: Regulated human reproduction

[ QUOTE ]
Who the hell has the right to tell me I can't have kids?

[/ QUOTE ]

If you are an irresponsible deadbeat, I think that innocent responsible people should, as long as they are forced at gunpoint to support your children through tax-funded welfare, definitely be allowed to have a say regarding your future reproduction.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10-29-2005, 08:16 PM
DVaut1 DVaut1 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 27
Default Re: Regulated human reproduction

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Uhhhhhhhh....some turn of the century eugenicists called.

They want their ideas back.

[/ QUOTE ]

Unfortunately, some countries had officially sanctioned eugenics programs through the 1970s. I wish such things were 100 years behind us.

And if I had to guess, I don't think it will be 100 years before we see such state-sponsored eugenics programs again.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is interesting. Do know off hand the names of some of the countries?

[/ QUOTE ]

Canada and Sweeden, at least, I think.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 10-29-2005, 08:48 PM
jokerthief jokerthief is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1
Default Re: Regulated human reproduction

[ QUOTE ]

Unfortunately, some countries had officially sanctioned eugenics programs through the 1970s. I wish such things were 100 years behind us.

And if I had to guess, I don't think it will be 100 years before we see such state-sponsored eugenics programs again.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is interesting. Do know off hand the names of some of the countries?

[/ QUOTE ]

Canada and Sweeden, at least, I think.

[/ QUOTE ]

I did some digging and you are right. Some other countries guilty of this: USA, Finland, Denmark, Estonia, Switzerland, Iceland, Singapore, Austrailia, and Norway.

The more I learn about history the darker it becomes.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.