Color by numbers: It's gonna be a looooooong ride...

[Entity]

UTG is loose, slightly on the passive side. The first coldcaller is even looser, and very passive.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $5. CO posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP (poster) calls, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (20.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, Hero...

[baronzeus]

This may not be as straightforward as it seems, but I call till the river and hope to catch the 2nd nuts? I think they are good often enough.

[SomethingClever]

Why didn't you bet the flop?

[Entity]

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Why didn't you bet the flop?

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Because I'm reasonably sure I don't have the best hand and I'm getting raised on this flop, I dunno, about 100% of the time?

Rob

[SomethingClever]

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Why didn't you bet the flop?

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Because I'm reasonably sure I don't have the best hand and I'm getting raised on this flop, I dunno, about 100% of the time?

Rob

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But don't you still have a lot of equity? And wouldn't UTG raising potentially knock out some 3 and 4-outers?

Just asking.

[Cancuk]

this is hard.
i would start crying, pull up my panties and call until i hit the 2nd nuts, and lose.

cheers.

[jba]

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Why didn't you bet the flop?

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Because I'm reasonably sure I don't have the best hand and I'm getting raised on this flop, I dunno, about 100% of the time?

Rob

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if you raise, it is doubtful that this is going to get capped -- they are just going to let you lead the turn into them. so there is no information to be gained by 3betting. even if it does all it will tell us is that UTG is charging with his set of kings or a flush or a flush draw. we're reasonably certain MP has a made flush.

it's obvious the question is call or fold so let's call and see the turn. we have decent equity and an out to the nuts [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[jba]

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this is hard.
i would start crying, pull up my panties and call until i hit the 2nd nuts, and lose.

cheers.

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we can hit the stone cold nuts here lets shoot for that


dont jinx it bro

[Cancuk]

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Why didn't you bet the flop?

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Because I'm reasonably sure I don't have the best hand and I'm getting raised on this flop, I dunno, about 100% of the time?

Rob

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if you raise, it is doubtful that this is going to get capped --

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I think it would get capped.

[Entity]

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Why didn't you bet the flop?

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Because I'm reasonably sure I don't have the best hand and I'm getting raised on this flop, I dunno, about 100% of the time?

Rob

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But don't you still have a lot of equity? And wouldn't UTG raising potentially knock out some 3 and 4-outers?

Just asking.

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How much do I care about knocking out a 3 or 4 outer when I'm behind?

Rob