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Old 10-18-2005, 02:16 AM
jason_t jason_t is offline
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Default 4/8 AQo

Live 4/8. TT is on my right. We are both playing normally.

Loose erratic player who loves to showdown limps UTG+1. It's folded to TT who raises in the SB and I call with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
TT bets, I raise, UTG+1 folds, TT 3-bets, I 4-bet (no cap), TT calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
TT checks, I bet, TT raises, I fold.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: 4/8 AQo

why no 3-bet preflop?
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:27 AM
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why no 3-bet preflop?

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Because jason doesn't understand the power of ace high.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:30 AM
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man, I don't know. I can't see TT raising this with A4s from the sb PF, and I'd have to have a really sick read to lay this down on the flop. Putting him on a set here is hard. I think that I'd call him down



edit:man, I really wish I had this type of info when you three bet me with KQ sat night, I might've been able to make you fold that on the turn [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:33 AM
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If he is on QQ+ you almost have to call here. You are getting 10:1 and you need about 11:1 to call (and then fold the river UI). If he can have QQ+ and AQ this is a bad fold. I would probably look him up here.

Brad
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:34 AM
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If he is on QQ+ you almost have to call here. You are getting 10:1 and you need about 11:1 to call (and then fold the river UI). If he can have QQ+ and AQ this is a bad fold. I would probably look him up here.

Brad

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I think 55 and 77 are in his range too.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:36 AM
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If he is on QQ+ you almost have to call here. You are getting 10:1 and you need about 11:1 to call (and then fold the river UI). If he can have QQ+ and AQ this is a bad fold. I would probably look him up here.

Brad

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I think 55 and 77 are in his range too.

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how bad is the limper, would TT really raise with 55 PF from the sb to force you out and get HU with mr short bus
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: 4/8 AQo

TT is OOP here and you showed huge strength on the flop even after the routine ISO-raise. There is probably no chance that you are ahead here.

I say you are looking at

AA (2 outs, 3 combos)
QQ (zero outs, 1 combo)
KK(5 outs, 6 combos)

So, yeah, you don't even have the odds to take one off.
Looks like a fold.

Ironically, this is probably a situation where having position dictates a fold.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:38 AM
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If he is on QQ+ you almost have to call here. You are getting 10:1 and you need about 11:1 to call (and then fold the river UI). If he can have QQ+ and AQ this is a bad fold. I would probably look him up here.

Brad

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I think 55 and 77 are in his range too.

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If you think 55 is in his range here than your preflop call is pretty bad IMO.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:40 AM
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If he is on QQ+ you almost have to call here. You are getting 10:1 and you need about 11:1 to call (and then fold the river UI). If he can have QQ+ and AQ this is a bad fold. I would probably look him up here.

Brad

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I think 55 and 77 are in his range too.

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If you think 55 is in his range here than your preflop call is pretty bad IMO.

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[23:20] Entity: [...] 3-bet PF [...]
[23:20] Entity: [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
[23:20] jason_t: ok you're right
[23:20] jason_t: not gonna argue forever THIS time
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