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Old 11-30-2005, 10:33 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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I disagee....i think its 50/50. You have to call down because of that and not in the hope he has q/q.

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If Villain has QQ, his turn raise is a pretty optimistic one, at this point.

I'm not ruling QQ out, but I don't think it's as likely as AA.
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:35 PM
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meant it's not worth opening
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:39 PM
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Why is his turn raise an optomistic raise? That's kind of a junky flop for the preflop action. He has an overpair and can't put OP on j/j. Well he can put it in his range of hands but not a large enough part of the range not to keep pumping.
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:47 PM
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Why is his turn raise an optomistic raise? That's kind of a junky flop for the preflop action. He has an overpair and can't put OP on j/j. Well he can put it in his range of hands but not a large enough part of the range not to keep pumping.

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If Villain has QQ, shouldn't he be thinking there's a really good chance he's losing to AA/KK/JJ? Hero capped preflop and hasn't slowed down yet.

If Hero can't beat QQ, shouldn't he be starting to get a little worried, when Villain raises the flop despite Hero's preflop cap?
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:53 PM
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Call down and cry a lot.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:59 PM
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ccccccccall down

TT/QQ are still in his range...as is 99 for that matter.

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Old 12-01-2005, 01:21 AM
ANY2CARDZ ANY2CARDZ is offline
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Default Re: kk utg agianst tag.

Im interested in craigs response, when you say just call the flop raise, is this on the assumption that your behind, and you want a cheap showdown? just calling a flop raise seems kind of passive to me, I guess I figure I am ahead and want to see where I am at with my 3 bet. Would you only make this play with a tag, or passive player? My agression has dwindled recently and Im trying to figure out where to gain bets and where not to spew.
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