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hourly rate and what not
I've been playing a bit of shorthanded $50 NL on PartyPoker and although my sample size is rather small (600 hands), I just got PokerTracker and since it's awesome I'm just curious about what serious players shoot for in terms of hourly rate, BB/hour or BB/100 at this limit. If not this limit, other short handed NL tables.
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Re: hourly rate and what not
at 50nl you should shoot for at least 7ptbb, preferably something like 9ptbb. You'll find that when ur killing the game for 7-10K stretches of hands you can average towards 15-20ptbb but then after u lose a couple buy-ins it will bring it back down to low teens or 8-10ptbb. You won't really get a good idea of your win rate until after at least 25K hands that include a good-sized downswing and a recovery. So probably more like 30-35K hands.
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Re: hourly rate and what not
Definitely raise more pre-flop. VPIP of 16% is OK (kinda tight IMO, but definitely in acceptable range). But PFR of 1.6% is very low. If you are raising only AA, KK and AK, you are losing a lot of value. Please raise TT+ and AQ and loosen up more in later positions.
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Re: hourly rate and what not
Haha I was waiting for someone to say something. Just come out and say I am a rock, it is ok! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Sorry to hijack thread but think this pokertracker is kind of cool and wanted to show that you can import hands. I am assuming the guy is not playing shorthanded 50 NL after 600 hands played.
BTW the site that this is from (pokeroom) has about 75% or maybe more raised pots pre flop so the vast majority of these pots are raised. Just not by me. Party is a different story it is limp city there at the low limits and I would raise more there pre flop if I played there. Edit... NM I am reading some of this crap wrong, I am new at this. |
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Re: hourly rate and what not
Well that explains the low PFR a bit, but I still think it should be higher. If people are raising with junk, you can want to re-riase with a good hand.
E.g. villain's PFR is 20%+, I'd reraise with AQo. You probably have him beat and ideally you want to play him heads up post-flop. |
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I know I got to work on this, I got my tomato proof suit on cause I was actually expecting a bunch of hell from these stats.
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Re: hourly rate and what not
don't get too caught up in winrates. You will never play enough hands at a level to get a solid idea of what you're really making. You have to play about 100K hands to narrow it down to a 5BB/100 range. For example, if after 100K hands at 25NL you're running at 7BB/100, statistically you can say with 95% accuracy your real win rate is between 4.5 and 9.5 BB/100. That's a lot of hands and still not a tight range. What this says is even over a huge number of hands, luck is an enormous factor and you shouldn't take results so seriously.
Scrapperdog: there is no excuse for a PFR that low. You are absolutely missing out on a ton of value. If most of the pots are already raised, you're doing yourself a huge injustice by not repopping them with strong holdings. Good strategy on a loose table is to tighten up, but you have to be very aggressive when you do play. Which reminds me, your post flop aggression factor is way too low. |
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Re: hourly rate and what not
[ QUOTE ]
Scrapperdog: there is no excuse for a PFR that low. You are absolutely missing out on a ton of value. If most of the pots are already raised, you're doing yourself a huge injustice by not repopping them with strong holdings. Good strategy on a loose table is to tighten up, but you have to be very aggressive when you do play. Which reminds me, your post flop aggression factor is way too low. [/ QUOTE ] I know my PFR sucks but I actually thought my turn and river stats were kind of normal. This past month I have been working on being more agressive on the river with value betting a good but not the nuts hand that in the past I would have checked, mostly thanks to this forum. What would you say a good number is for all of these positions? |
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WAY too low was probably an exageration. But you do want to be above 2 on all streets. Especially as tight as you are preflop, your hands have to be good enough to bet/raise with more than you are.
I can't stress enough how much you need to raise more preflop. 5% PFR is still considered very tight 10 handed. |
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