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Old 09-07-2005, 02:44 PM
aK13 aK13 is offline
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Default A8s -- felt like a retard (5/10)

MP has TAGish mined stats 25/15/2. He's been pretty quiet since I've been watching him (waiting for a seat). And I just sat down, so I don't think he's got a read on me yet.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: (10.70 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

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Flop play and river play?
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Old 09-07-2005, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: A8s -- felt like a fish (5/10)

Looks good all the way.
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Old 09-07-2005, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: A8s -- felt like a retard (5/10)

Your read doesn't make any sense but I call the flop and 3 bet the river.

-DeathDonkey
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Old 09-07-2005, 02:50 PM
aK13 aK13 is offline
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Default Re: A8s -- felt like a retard (5/10)

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Your read doesn't make any sense but I call the flop and 3 bet the river.

-DeathDonkey

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I think I made it more clear. I'm a little incoherent when I wake up in the morning.
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Old 09-07-2005, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: A8s -- felt like a retard (5/10)

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Your read doesn't make any sense but I call the flop and 3 bet the river.

-DeathDonkey

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This seems marginal at best. It costs you 2 more BB when you're behind, so you need to be good 2/3s of the time here, since folding to a cap would be retarded. Do you really think that BB is pulling teh sexy with aces up (and 2/3s of the time)? This seems to be the only logical hand that we're beating.
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Old 09-07-2005, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: A8s -- felt like a retard (5/10)

I watched aK13 play this hand. I like raising the flop since 99-JJ will likely juts lay it down on the turn. When he 3bets, I thought he should just call and raise the turn.

The river play was really hard. He was a decent player and i know he knew what aK13 had. Also, he definitely wasn't bluff raising a 3. Dunno what to say. DeathDonkey says 3bet, I say it's a tough call.
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Old 09-07-2005, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: A8s -- felt like a retard (5/10)

I think you have to 3-bet this river. KK or QQ doesn't make sense considering the turn action. Putting hero on a flush on the turn doesn't seem very TAGish (also very few flush possible hands that are raiseable now that the K and Q of hearts are on the board). Hero could be raising for a free showdown or a lonely Ah so a KK or QQ would have to 3-bet the turn IMO.

On the other hand I admit I have some problems seeing how the 3 can improve his hand. Considering the action on all streets no hand really makes any sense to me. Maybe he decided not to pussy out with his AK or KQ?
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Old 09-07-2005, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: A8s -- felt like a retard (5/10)

Given the way it played out, I don't think 3betting the river is optimal.
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