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Old 09-06-2005, 10:37 AM
@bsolute_luck @bsolute_luck is offline
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Ah - sorry to miss your point! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

What line do you suggest? I've been taking these too passively, because I'm tempted to play it as a draw. I know it's weak, but I get lost in these situations.

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i don't know where the "weak" thought comes from just because we aren't betting/raising. this IMO is the perfect hand to not go gonzo over. line i would take:
1. check/call the flop
2. check/call the turn
3. check/call river UI probably or bet out if either the T came in and no full house look to be on the board or i hit runner-runner [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] for the nut flush.
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Old 09-06-2005, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: Ack...confusing AK hand....

You played that AT hand badly. In this one I like capping preflop, but given the preflop c/c c/c bet and change the plan if another broadway card hits.

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Old 09-06-2005, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: Ack...confusing AK hand....

I cap PF and lead the flop. If he raises again, I will likely just call down.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: Ack...confusing AK hand....

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Ah - sorry to miss your point! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

What line do you suggest? I've been taking these too passively, because I'm tempted to play it as a draw. I know it's weak, but I get lost in these situations.

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i don't know where the "weak" thought comes from just because we aren't betting/raising. this IMO is the perfect hand to not go gonzo over. line i would take:
1. check/call the flop
2. check/call the turn
3. check/call river UI probably or bet out if either the T came in and no full house look to be on the board or i hit runner-runner [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] for the nut flush.

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No - your line is not weak. My thinking that I'm absolutely drawing (with no showdown value) is. This line looks fine.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: Ack...confusing AK hand....

Why cap pf? Hero doesn't have a read that villain is 3-betting with crap so what's the value in capping?
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: Ack...confusing AK hand....

Classic WA/WB situation. I think the more interesting hand is the ATo one though. I would have checkraised the Turn on that one.
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Old 09-06-2005, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: Ack...confusing AK hand....

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You played that AT hand badly. In this one I like capping preflop, but given the preflop c/c c/c bet and change the plan if another broadway card hits.

-DeathDonkey

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For the AT one, what do you think I should have done differently (I don't think I played it well, either).
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Old 09-06-2005, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: Ack...confusing AK hand....

Fold the flop and bet the river.

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Old 09-06-2005, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: Ack...confusing AK hand....

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Classic WA/WB situation.

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Sorry to interrupt with the newbie question, but what is the correct way to play out the classic WA/WB situation? Is it calling down?
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Old 09-06-2005, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: Ack...confusing AK hand....

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Classic WA/WB situation. I think the more interesting hand is the ATo one though. I would have checkraised the Turn on that one.

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i think that's the worst possible line in that hand. if he has KK-TT you are making him fold, and you are losing more bets to every other possible hand he could have 3-bet (in general).

i agree fully with death donkey, hero should have check folded that flop (he usually has 3 outs), and he should have bet the river.
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