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Old 08-24-2005, 04:05 PM
WSOP Bound WSOP Bound is offline
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Default Re: STOP BEING WEAK-TIGHT

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A7 is not tptk (it means top pair, top kicker)

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It is on a 2 5 7 flop [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-24-2005, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: Am I bisonbison?

While there are instances where it may not be in our best interest to 3bet the flop with TP/TK, it is rarely a mistake. I think the key here is that it's better to develop "3bet the flop" as a default play first, then ease yourself into the spots where it might be better to wait for a later street. Where people got this idea that it's good to call a flop raise then donkbet the turn into like 4 people is beyond me.

Also, TP of T's and up is probably the line.



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So much hate... =(

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The fact that you've over taken me in posts, and I'm usually on this site a few times a day really scares me [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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If you think I post-whore, check out baronzeus over there....
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Old 08-24-2005, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Am I bisonbison?

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If you think I post-whore, check out baronzeus over there....

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OMG CHEAP SHOT. Go take your $9 bankroll and play .02/.04.
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Old 08-24-2005, 04:14 PM
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If you think I post-whore, check out baronzeus over there....

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You won the 1000 posts/month prize.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, it was like 1000 in July and 2000 in August.


OMG CHEAP SHOT. Go take your $9 bankroll and play .02/.04.

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Old 08-24-2005, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: Am I bisonbison?

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If you think I post-whore, check out baronzeus over there....

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You won the 1000 posts/month prize.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, it was like 1000 in July and 2000 in August.


OMG CHEAP SHOT. Go take your $9 bankroll and play .02/.04.

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You've posted 2600 times and your formatting still sucks. Go be pink-er.
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Old 08-24-2005, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: Am I bisonbison?

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While there are instances where it may not be in our best interest to 3bet the flop with TP/TK, it is rarely a mistake. I think the key here is that it's better to develop "3bet the flop" as a default play first, then ease yourself into the spots where it might be better to wait for a later street. Where people got this idea that it's good to call a flop raise then donkbet the turn into like 4 people is beyond me.

Also, TP of T's and up is probably the line.


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I like that line when I think my opponent is trying to free-card, and two players are out with different draws. Well, that and I have to unlearn the ultra-passive board play, when a raise meant two pair+.
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Old 08-24-2005, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: STOP BEING WEAK-TIGHT

I agree with the sentiment on this post that showing proper aggression on the flop makes play on later streets easier. This is especially true with newer posters who are trying to get out the habit of being passive.

I also think, however, that one of the major issues on this board is not too little aggression, but rather too much inappropriate aggression. That is that one is willing to bet and raise when sometimes checking and calling is better. I see this mostly in comments on the hands of others. We call it selective aggression for a reason. I'm not calling out anyone in particular -- I just think we tend to get a little raise happy here sometimes instead of thinking in terms of what is the best mathematical play.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: STOP BEING WEAK-TIGHT

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Actually, I think a good portion of the players on this board are tight-passive.

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I sure was when I was a micro-er, and it was a pretty helpful way to learn the basics of postflop play slowly - gotta ease yourself into it.

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yep, I was when I was down in the .5/1, and 1/2 levels, I think a lot of ppl think they are TA when they really are TP, I'm not saying super-rocky or anything, just more passive than they should be

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At the .5/1 people play back at you so rarely you don't get much chance to be aggressive.

If you are winning your line is usually bet-bet-bet-win.
If you are behind it's bet-bet-bet/call-lose.

Not much chance to work out your aggression. You can re-raise in the rare instance where you have then A-high flush, but if the board is paired, they got the boat most times.

Not that I am complaining. It's easy to beat them with barely more than solid PF play.

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Old 08-25-2005, 08:18 AM
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Maybe I'll ask it like this - at what point is "TPTK" not worth the reraise?

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Also, TP of T's and up is probably the line.

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Old 09-27-2005, 05:46 AM
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Is there an award for posting a thousand posts in a month?

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raise preflop

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It wasn't 99, you should have folded preflop
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