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Old 09-11-2005, 02:16 AM
wackjob wackjob is offline
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If I'm missing any value preflop by not 3betting, I think I can make it up post flop.


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Awful.
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Old 09-11-2005, 06:35 AM
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No one has mentioned the flop call. You have about 6-7 outs IF they are all clean. If your dominated/reverse dominated that falls down to 3-4 which makes the flop call bad.
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Old 09-11-2005, 06:40 AM
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No one has mentioned the flop call. You have about 6-7 outs IF they are all clean. If your dominated/reverse dominated that falls down to 3-4 which makes the flop call bad.

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When I'm not concentrating/playing too many tables, I will be folding these flops, which is a HUGE error here. With 1.5 outs to backdoor straight, 1.5 to backdoor 2nd nut flush, plus 2 overs probably valued around 3 outs total, this is an easy flop call with ~6 outs.
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Old 09-11-2005, 08:19 AM
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If you don't count your overs as clean you can't count you backdoor straight fully either.

I don't think KQs is an automatic 3-bet of an UTG raise, but against this guy it is.
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Old 09-11-2005, 08:41 AM
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I'd also call preflop. The rest of the hand I like too, the turn bet out or check/raise is close. I think it depends on whether you think villain

-will bet PPs under JJ on the turn? (I think yes)
-will bet a broadway gutshot on the turn? (probably not, maybe AK/AT?)
-draw to a broadway gutshot on the turn when you bet (probably yes)
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