river

Brainwalter · #1 05-31-2005, 05:33 AM

I've been spending too much time in OOT and I suck at poker.

CO and BN are both pretty LAG, around 50% VPIP and 10-15% PFR. CO is 1.5 PFA.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (4.20 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

River: (8.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO raises, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 18.20 BB

On the river I'm thinking:
AcXc would have usually raised the turn. CO is loose and looks a lot like a smaller flush. I can still get crying overcalls from BN maybe if CO just calls the 3bet. MP2 might call a couple more too. There are a lot of potential extra calls in there to make up for the times I lose. Anyone like the 3bet, or not so much?

Comments on other streets welcome too.

aK13 · #2 05-31-2005, 05:36 AM

River is the easiest 3bet ever.

I don't know if I'd lead the turn -- I'd just check/call it, probably, as I don't think we're folding 3 people out, and it's probably unlikely K high is good (and we might be reverse dominated).

Brainwalter · #3 05-31-2005, 05:40 AM

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River is the easiest 3bet ever.

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Thanks, sometimes I go overboard with "marginal" river raises and 3-bets - I'll try and find a closer one to post later.

therockofgibraltar · #4 05-31-2005, 06:02 AM

River is perfect but I don't about that turn bet. Semibluffing doesn't work so is this value bet? Can we think that nobody has an A and count our KQ as an overcards, so we have flush draw+overcrards --> value bet?

Brainwalter · #5 05-31-2005, 07:02 AM

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River is perfect but I don't about that turn bet. Semibluffing doesn't work so is this value bet? Can we think that nobody has an A and count our KQ as an overcards, so we have flush draw+overcrards --> value bet?

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No, I don't think I can conclude that noone has an A. It's quite possible an A "checked to the raiser" on the button. Turn bet is probably at least a little bad.