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Old 03-15-2005, 11:42 PM
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Old 03-16-2005, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: The battle for the teaching of Evolution in schools heats up

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...However, considering a great majority of Americans believe in Creationism...

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If this is so then our country is much worse off than I thought.
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Old 03-16-2005, 03:28 AM
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My stuff was a bit rusty earlier, and I decided to google it.

This site is really good: Creationism
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Old 03-16-2005, 03:32 AM
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Default So you prefer Religion over Science?

Why is that not at all surprising, considering the political views you have been expressing here?

Apart from some technicalities and a temporal difference in progress, your path does not differ from any other religious fundamentalist's. Chadors are relatively unimportant.
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Old 03-16-2005, 03:44 AM
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Default Re: The battle for the teaching of Evolution in schools heats up

Stephen Hawking:

F*ck the Creationists
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Old 03-16-2005, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: The battle for the teaching of Evolution in schools heats up

While I'm not particularly in favor of teaching Creationism, this quote struck me as interesting:

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It's not a matter of seperating people, its a matter of offering people choice.

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Doesn't excluding Creationism from being taught amount to limiting peoples' choices? Both Creationism and Evolution are theories. Do we believe that the theory of evolution is being taught in schools as though it is a theory or that it is a law? Perhaps as a compromise, we can put more emphasis on the fact that evolution is a theory and that there are other theories that exist as to how the universe was created. That way, if you're a Christian, you don't have to unteach your children.
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Old 03-16-2005, 04:15 AM
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Default Re: The battle for the teaching of Evolution in schools heats up

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While I'm not particularly in favor of teaching Creationism, this quote struck me as interesting:

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It's not a matter of seperating people, its a matter of offering people choice.

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Doesn't excluding Creationism from being taught amount to limiting peoples' choices? Both Creationism and Evolution are theories. Do we believe that the theory of evolution is being taught in schools as though it is a theory or that it is a law? Perhaps as a compromise, we can put more emphasis on the fact that evolution is a theory and that there are other theories that exist as to how the universe was created. That way, if you're a Christian, you don't have to unteach your children.

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Just because creationism and evolution are both "theories" does not mean that they have equal validity. Why don't we also teach the theory that the earth is flat, which apparently some people still believe: link
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Old 03-16-2005, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: The battle for the teaching of Evolution in schools heats up

More reading trouble. I didn't say we had to teach Creationism. I just offered the option of emphasizing that the theory of evolution is just that. A theory. It isn't a proven fact. It isn't a law. We don't have to teach every theory out there. Just make sure kids learning about evolution realize that this isn't necessarily the way the world works. Comprende?
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Old 03-16-2005, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: The battle for the teaching of Evolution in schools heats up

Two relevant articles: Article One

Article Two

This 'battle' is nothing new or surprising. It has been ongoing in various forms since the first Shaman danced about a smoky fire, shook his rattle, whooped out some mumbo-jumbo, and worked his 'magic' on the credulous crowd.

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Old 03-16-2005, 04:38 AM
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Default Re: The battle for the teaching of Evolution in schools heats up

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More reading trouble. I didn't say we had to teach Creationism. I just offered the option of emphasizing that the theory of evolution is just that. A theory. It isn't a proven fact. It isn't a law. We don't have to teach every theory out there. Just make sure kids learning about evolution realize that this isn't necessarily the way the world works. Comprende?

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Fine, then, if you do this, then in the name of good science, one must point out that these other theories have no scientific relevance whatsoever.
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