Should i be calling this? (55)

#1 08-19-2005, 07:36 PM

People had been pushing alot as usual, and i thought my hand was ahead here.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (5 handed) converter

MP (t1385)
Button (t1265)
SB (t2805)
Hero (t1960)
UTG (t2585)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button goes all-in(1265), Hero calls t965.

Isura · #2 08-19-2005, 07:43 PM

How much is a lot, ie what push range do you put him on. I'm probably folding since the 3 stacks to your left are pretty short and you still have lots of FE and are not desperate yet.

#3 08-19-2005, 07:46 PM

I saw him push Q3 once, But thats about the lowset i woudl put him on. Any poket or card above queen.

Isura · #4 08-19-2005, 07:47 PM

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I saw him push Q3 once, But thats about the lowset i woudl put him on. Any poket or card above queen.

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That's not loose enough for me to call.

#5 08-19-2005, 07:55 PM

Should i just fold this almsot all the time because of the chip stacks? This seemed really risky now that i think about it.

psyduck · #6 08-19-2005, 08:02 PM

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How much is a lot, ie what push range do you put him on. I'm probably folding since the 3 stacks to your left are pretty short and you still have lots of FE and are not desperate yet.

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Pretty much. A3 and A2 and hands like that are about breakeven (maybe 55:45) against two random cards, but suck against pairs.

His Q3 push isn't loose enough for me to call here. Minimum hand would be something like A9 IF I knew he was doing any 2. What's more, he's pushing from the button and not from SB, so you have to give him more credit.

This is a fold.

MegaBet · #7 08-19-2005, 08:29 PM

eugh.

I can never understand why people call with these hands. I have been sucked out on so many times by these hands. I just don't understand it [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

#8 08-19-2005, 08:47 PM

In another hand this same situation came up and i had AT, The chips stacks were a little diffrent, but i still had the button raiser covered, and a decent stack compared to blinds (bout 6-7bb). I hope its right to call with AT in this same situation. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
BTW this was a diffrent table so the raiser was not as loose, but the blinds were also 150/300.

MegaBet · #9 08-19-2005, 08:51 PM

Now we are getting into the grey area where reads are very important.

Calling with A3 - NO!

Calling with A10 - it depends [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

The reasoning being, if villain is pushing any ace or pocket pair you are likely either way ahead or not far behind. It's a judgement call and it's different every time.