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Old 09-12-2004, 02:57 AM
The4thFilm The4thFilm is offline
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Default Folding AK preflop 25NL

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (10 handed)

MP3 ($19.55)
CO ($6)
Hero ($29.65)
SB ($14.95)
BB ($23)
UTG ($176.83)
UTG+1 ($27.60)
UTG+2 ($34.30)
MP1 ($30.90)
MP2 ($23.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises to $5</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $5, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: ($10.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG bets $5</font>, UTG+2 calls $5.

Turn: ($20.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks.

River: ($20.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks.

Final Pot: $20.75
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Old 09-12-2004, 03:36 AM
B1GF1SHY B1GF1SHY is offline
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Default Re: Folding AK preflop 25NL

Looks fine to me, I'd also fold. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 09-12-2004, 10:45 PM
GlemZurg GlemZurg is offline
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Default Re: Folding AK preflop 25NL

Is the big blind $0.50 or $1.00 though. I know the hand converter displays Paradise's small blind as the big blind.

If the game has $1 big blind, the raise and call are only 5XBB (which may be many mediocre hands at micro-limit Paradise).

Don't know how the PP 25NL players play though. Really just putting in my hand converter comment--is it a 10xBB open or a 5xBB open.

Justin
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Old 09-13-2004, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: Folding AK preflop 25NL

a lot of times when the raise is large like that i see party players holding JJ or QQ
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Old 09-13-2004, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: Folding AK preflop 25NL

As a newer player I think I understand the reasoning for folding preflop but could you please explain your reasoning with more detail?
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Old 09-13-2004, 10:52 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Folding AK preflop 25NL

i'd push. party 25 players raise some junk hands.

or i'd call. but i wouldn't fold.
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Old 09-13-2004, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: Folding AK preflop 25NL

How long had you been at the table? Had UTG been pushing his stack around? He's got 5x the second stack, so he can afford to put everyone else to the test with their money early. It's a good way to steal blinds, as it will scare off all but the best hands.

If he's amassed his stack by being a rock, it's an insta-fold. But if he's shown a propensity to bet big PF from any position, I'd call or raise. (If you have him as being a bully, I'd probably push.) There are only two hands that have you worse than ~48%.
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Old 09-13-2004, 12:52 PM
The4thFilm The4thFilm is offline
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Default Re: Folding AK preflop 25NL

I hadn't been at the table very long. Anyway, both players show AQo and split.
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Old 09-13-2004, 01:11 PM
GimmeDaWatch GimmeDaWatch is offline
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Default Re: Folding AK preflop 25NL

Ya Im not folding this at Party 25. Pushing is an option, but I wouldnt, although it certainly would have worked out well for you in this instance. Also, some players raise this much whenever they raise, so it certainly doesnt mean AA or KK. If you hit the flop, you're 95% to be ahead, especially if you hit your A and you have position to win a big pot. If you hit your A and trap a smaller A you have a great chance to double up.
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Old 09-13-2004, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Folding AK preflop 25NL

You have one of the best hands in the best position. I'd slap you if I could reach you.

I've seen people raise with mid-pocket pairs that high. I've seen raises with AQo, AJo, A4o. I've seen raises with Q6s.

BAD HERO, BAD!
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