Commerce 10-20 NL AA hand

[Ulysses]

10-20NL. You have a big stack (10k+) and have the table way covered. You have a pretty solid image. You are in MP w/ AcAh.

Pretty tight, pretty straightforward, OK-playing kid (2850) opens for 70 in early position. At this table, standard open is 50-80 bucks, so this means a decent hand but doesn't necessarily indicate anything special. You decide to make it 150. Everyone folds and he calls.

Flop is QdKc2d

Pot 300. He checks. You bet 300. He calls.

Turn is As(QdKc2d)

Pot 900. He checks. You bet 600. He pushes.

3900 in the pot. 1800 to call.

Thoughts?

[gomberg]

I put the kid on AK or QQ and call. If he has a TJs or something, so be it. looks like a slowplayed QQ to me.

[sniperd]

I don't think I can lay this down, I call. If he has JT, you still have outs to boat it. I agree, looks like a slowplayed QQ, KK, or AK.

[schwza]

Happily call. Why'd you make such a small reraise before the flop?

[ML4L]

Call. He has QQ. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

ML4L

[ML4L]

Seriously, the crux of the hand is how you'd play AK. If you'd back it with your stack against that kid, the flop is where the action should take place. If you'd fold it to a check-raise, he screwed up the turn royally, cause isn't getting called unless he's beat (I guess AKdiamonds calls).

So, from his point, it's either check-raise the flop and move-in when you reraise like he knew you will, or check-call and then lead the turn when the A comes and hope that you put him on AK, AJdiamonds, etc.

You played the hand well... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

ML4L

[Jon Matthews]

Would someone raise with JTs in EP? At those stakes possibly, but I think the chances he's got it are about the same as the percentage that you'll fill up, so I would call. I think he's trying to make two pair fold, so he might have a lower set?

Jon.

[fsuplayer]

I would call everytime given the way the hand was played. You have outs if you are behind, but there are many other hands he would play this way which you can beat.

BTW As another poster already commented, why the smallish reraise on the flop?
The pot is $10+20+70 +70(your call)=170
Your raise only made it only $80 to him. Which he should call with a huge variety of hands including suited or any pairs correctly.

I think $175 would be better here, but I am sure that you "decided" $150 for a reason, perhaps your table image, previous hands?

Please explain, as being the first to enter the hand with AA after an EP raise can be very tricky, as you dont want to push others out, but you dont want them to call w/o making a mistake.

I think Ciaffone advocated a larger reraise there, but I would be interested in your take, Diablo.

Thanks,

FsuPlayer

[DcifrThs]

he wouldn't raise JT here preflop i don't think.

if he did, good for him...call. plus you got a draw to the niggity nut boat if you are behind.

his most likely hand is either KK or QQ imo.

-Barron

[Ulysses]

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he wouldn't raise JT here preflop i don't think.

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Effective stacks at this table are 3000+. If he decides to play JT from EP (which he just might), he's just as likely to open it for 70 as he is AA. In these games, many players will open for a standard amount with any hand they decide to play. If you say "he wouldn't play JT from early position" that's one thing. But opening for 70 here should not be looked at as a "raise" in the limit sense of the term.