Cards in the muck - dead hand?

[Randy_Refeld]

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Why don't you stop being a smartass and try thinking about how it could hurt the game. It can open up the game to even more angle shooting and confusion. Does the floor exist to make sure the rules are being enforced or to decide what a player's intentions are?

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One of the rules that the floor enforces is that he will rule in the interest of fairness to protect the best interest of the game. He is specifically directed to consider the player's intent when making rulings.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

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I just do not see why the floor has to make subjective decisions when people can and should learn to protect their hand until the dealer trades the pot for your cards.

[/ QUOTE ] Many new players don't understand the concept of protecting their hands. Although sometimes a fouled hand should be called dead, it's not always going to be the proper thing to make the player learn his lesson the hard way every time. You can't let an obvious angle shot succeed, even if someone's hand wasn't properly protected. That wouldn't keep the integrity of the game intact.

al

[Al_Capone_Junior]

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My manager took me aside between downs and told me "You flip over a players cards again and I'll rip your nuts off."


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I like this guy's style! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

al

Well, keeping the integrity of the game intact would require good floormen at every casino. I am just afraid that I may slip up and say something along the lines of "You win," as I am making a call and the other player mucks his hand immediately claiming the I declared a fold. I believe at Commerce, there are a lot of statements which constitute a fold.

How would you have handled it if both players in the OP were trying to angleshoot. Player A has a red Aces and player B has red kings.