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#1
12-03-2005, 06:11 PM
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$33\'s - Postflop, two annoying turns
No phenomenal reads, villain in Hand #2 doubled up calling down A2o on Axx board and rivered a gutshot. My image so far is rockish.
Both hands were intentionally played passively by me preflop, so WRT to turn action, my holding isn't obvious to either villain. In hand #1, I wanted to call down an inferior ace, and wasn't sure what to make of his turn bet given my flat call on the flop. Hand #2, I lead out since I'll get action from Kx, intending to C/R AI on the turn, not expecting him to shove. Minraises at $33's (preflop) lately are often any two broadway, although I can't imagine a donk shoving KJ or QT on this turn. Hand 1 Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx SB (t732) BB (t1456) UTG (t830) UTG+1 (t850) MP1 (t645) MP2 (t911) MP3 (t1355) Hero (t866) Button (t355) Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. 3 folds</font>, MP2 raises to t100</font>, 1 fold</font>, Hero calls t100, 2 folds</font>, BB calls t50. Flop: (t325) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)</font> BB checks, MP2 bets t200</font>, Hero calls t200, BB folds. Turn: (t725) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)</font> MP2 bets t300</font>, Hero..... Hand 2 Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx UTG (t2104) MP1 (t981) MP2 (t1489) CO (t400) Button (t740) Hero (t1296) BB (t990) Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. 2 folds</font>, MP2 raises to t100</font>, 2 folds</font>, Hero calls t75, BB calls t50. Flop: (t300) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)</font> Hero bets t175</font>, BB folds, MP2 raises to t350</font>, Hero calls t175. Turn: (t1000) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)</font> Hero checks with intention of C/R AI, villain shoves, Hero.... 
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#3
12-03-2005, 06:29 PM
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Re: $33\'s - Postflop, two annoying turns
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Hand 1 Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx SB (t732) BB (t1456) UTG (t830) UTG+1 (t850) MP1 (t645) MP2 (t911) MP3 (t1355) Hero (t866) Button (t355) Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. 3 folds</font>, MP2 raises to t100</font>, 1 fold</font>, Hero calls t100, 2 folds</font>, BB calls t50. <font color="blue">Fine</font> Flop: (t325) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)</font> BB checks, MP2 bets t200</font>, Hero calls t200, BB folds. <font color="blue">Fine (we're trapping)</font> Turn: (t725) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)</font> MP2 bets t300</font>, Hero..... <font color="blue">Push </font> Hand 2 Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx UTG (t2104) MP1 (t981) MP2 (t1489) CO (t400) Button (t740) Hero (t1296) BB (t990) Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. 2 folds</font>, MP2 raises to t100</font>, 2 folds</font>, Hero calls t75, BB calls t50. <font color="blue">Make it 300 to go</font> Flop: (t300) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)</font> Hero bets t175</font>, BB folds, MP2 raises to t350</font>, Hero calls t175. <font color="blue">a) Leading - perfect. Maybe even a touch less b) Calling - perfect</font> Turn: (t1000) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)</font> Hero checks with intention of C/R AI, villain shoves, Hero.... <font color="blue">Do that...go AI</font> [/ QUOTE ] Looking to c-r the flop in the second is an option. But with his PF raise, I like the notion of having him push us off -- leading a little more 'probe' looking because so. T100 maybe.
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#4
12-03-2005, 06:34 PM
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Re: $33\'s - Postflop, two annoying turns
there shouldnt be this much postflop playing. stop slowplaying these hands!!!
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#5
12-03-2005, 06:35 PM
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Re: $33\'s - Postflop, two annoying turns
btw if you are going to call preflop, not raising the flop is horrible in both of these
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#7
12-03-2005, 07:16 PM
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Re: $33\'s - Postflop, two annoying turns
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btw if you are going to call preflop, not raising the flop is horrible in both of these [/ QUOTE ] Both are almost completely drawless, so I see them as WA/WB and don't want to blow villains off Ax and Kx. I suppose shutting out BB in Hand #2 is a concern, but I would have no trouble shutting down if he showed aggression. Your point that the dynamic is changed given no PF raise is definitely a good one though. WRT Hand #2 I see how not reraising PF was pretty hideous since I'm OOP and for stack size considerations. I just hate putting in that 3x reraise since it looks so much like AA or KK, but it apparently has to be done here.
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